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Samsung posts brutal financials as chip business profits plunge by 94% (www.techspot.com)
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[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The chip business posted quarterly operating profits of only ₩400 billion ($288 million), down sharply from ₩6.45 trillion ($4.64 billion) a year earlier. Revenue also declined to ₩27.9 trillion ($20 billion) from ₩28.56 trillion ($20.5 billion) in 2024.

Where did the $4.64 billion a year ago profit in the chip division come from? I don't remember any major customer wins in 2024 and one would think with Samsung fabbing the Switch 2 SoC, there would be an increase in absolute profit values (if not margins).

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe last year is when the contract for the Switch 2 was signed and paid?

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't have professional experience in semiconductor contracts, but it seems unlikely that an upfront payment format would be used; I would assume payments (i.e. revenue and profit) would be tied to quarterly unit delivery figures (more in Q3/Q3 to cover season demand peak).

Perhaps this is tied to intra-company transactions (decline in Exynos fab orders?); but I would still think Switch 2 SoC should have a positive impact on current profit. They didn't just sign a contract on near break even terms, did they? :)

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was thinking it may be a mix of both, an upfront contract last year, and continual payments

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Unless someone with experience in such contracts is using Lemmy (and reading this community), we can only speculate. :)

[–] misk@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

It’s quite likely that Switch 2 have been in production for a couple of years already given massive stockpiles they had for release. There’s plenty of circumstantial evidence that they delayed Switch 2 because Switch 1 was selling like hotcakes and there was no good launch lineup.