Tell that to Democratic Party voters in the USA. We are voting in favor of more stricter gun control laws to deter gun ownership, and are allowing fascists to take away funding from public broadcasting that pays for Sesame Street, into killing more Palestinians. Someone please tell me I'm not crazy.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 11 points 2 days ago

You're not.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

good. no peace until israel is dissolved and Palestine is back.

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How could this realistically happen in our lifetime? Genuine question.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel would need to actually be invaded by the rest of the world for that to happen.

Very unlikely unless a pro Palestinian president is elected soonish

[–] Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

204 countries including Israel and not one is good-hearted AND powerful enough to undo the mistake Britain made by creating Israel.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 2 points 2 days ago

Correct. The central issue is that "and powerful enough" part, since the US military will go 100% to war with them if they try to do anything about it, and no country wants that, generally speaking.

The correct choice would have been to pressure the American government to do something, but since our whole strategy for doing that was to let the person come to power who is ten times worse than even the horrifying standard of US presidents on this issue, we sorta fucked that whole thing up.

[–] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Get the Arab League on board.

I'm not sure why they're calling on Hamas to disarm now. Presumably because of Oct 7th, but surely they know if Hamas disarms, it's over for Gaza, and then for the West Bank, the Golan Heights, Lebanon, Syria, maybe even the Sinai again.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think you have a skewed understand of what outcome "no peace" will lead to. There is only one, and that's not it, and we're moving towards it pretty quickly at this point.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

? what is wrong with wanting the zionist genocidal invaders gone?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 4 points 2 days ago

Is your impression that that's what Hamas is accomplishing?

I don't know what the hell else the Gazans could do, no one's helping them and they are dying. But there is a reason Israel was making sure Hamas was getting funding for years and years and supporting them against domestic opposition: Because what they're doing doesn't work, except to provide additional excuses for Israel to keep mowing down villages. If what they were doing worked, Israel wouldn't let them do it.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Hey Likud can we have our check now pls, we did what you asked and we're getting low"

"Ssh not until after the press conference"

"Oh OK"

Honestly the whole fuckin' thing is stupid. Palestinian state, are we going to have a ceasefire, "human shields," was the rape "widespread" or not. The whole fucking country is starving now, on purpose. They're dying. This is all just dancing around until they all drop, and the world shrugs and moves on to other things while Israel gets ready to move on the West Bank in a big way.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

…and can you please hack my wife's phone to see if she's cheating on me. k thanks, bye.