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I never got around to playing the DS Castlevania games since I never owned a DS, and the emulators aren't the best experience because of its awkward portrait mode and touch controls. Recently though, I picked up the Castlevania Dominus Collection on my Switch and wanted to gush about it a little.

Order of Ecclesia is fantastic. Almost 20 years later, it aged incredibly well even compared to modern Metroidvanias. You could say the same for any RPG Castlevania game, but still. It's a great take on the Castlevania formula but manages to be unique enough to feel fresh.

For one, this doesn't take place in one big map. It's split up into multiple smaller areas connected with a world map, which is pretty different compared to entirely taking place in one castle. Areas can still be massive and have a lot to explore though, and there's a lot of side-quests you can finish to help the villagers across many areas.

Also, Shanoa's playstyle is heavily magic-based. At the start you can conjure up weapons to attack normally, but over the course of the game you'll be exclusively using spells and exploiting elemental weaknesses on enemies. Similar to Dawn of Sorrow and the newer Bloodstained, you gain new spells from enemies you kill which is a great mechanic.

Side note, I'm in love with Shanoa's design in this game. It's a shame it had to be a DS game because it doesn't quite show in the pixel art, but she's probably the coolest MC in any Castlevania game. Very different to your typical "Die Monster!" protagonist.

Order of Ecclesia is also notably really tough. I was having a much harder time compared to Symphony of the Night or Dawn of Sorrow. Checkpoints are few and far between, and bosses can be such a pain in the ass with really high HP and enough damage to kill you in 3 hits. The game is also very stingy on money so you can't just keep buying potions to use in hard fights, I was constantly broke and had to manage my resources well.

Overall, fantastic game. Highly recommended if you're into Metroidvanias or never got around to playing it. It's an S tier Castlevania game.

I also want to give a shoutout to Konami. I hate their business practices and pachinko machines, but I have to give credit where due, this is the best retro collection of games I've ever bought. It has everything. Built-in achievements, a music player for each track in every game, hundreds of high quality concept arts, scanned user manuals for each language, high quality versions of covers and promotional material... You can even switch each game's region between US and EU for its subtle differences.

Like, you can even choose tracks you like in the main menu and place them in a playlist, then shuffle it. They put so much effort into this and it really shows. It's a game preservation miracle. Serious props to the creators.

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[–] christian@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

I remember not enjoying this one anywhere near as much as Dawn of Sorrow. I remember I saved right before a boss fight that I was pretty confident was Dracula and would be the final boss (could have been mistaken in thinking that though) and then never felt compelled to actually enter that room and finish the game. There was also a plot turn that kind of annoyed me just because I had been expecting it from the start of the game. I did enjoy the voice acting during the boss battle where he keeps yelling at you for being a "stupid disciple" though.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I think all 3 of the DS games were really great, but I especially appreciated the more action-oriented approach in Ecclesia. It's still very recognizably in the Iga-vania line, but has a little bit of the flavor from the older CV style too.

[–] MCHEVA4EVA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

M2 are responsible for it more than Konami. M2 ports are the best.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Porting studios should get recognition too. Kudos to M2!

[–] LemmyPlay 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Really appreciate your opinion here. What an incredible game, I have been meaning to replay it and this post is inspiring me to do so sooner than later.

Aria of Sorrow and this game have the best Castlevania art style. I thought the cartoon-y shift with the other 2 DS games was a big mistake, it just made the series fall into visual obscurity with anime styles. And a series like this benefits from the dark weight of the art style, especially when the low-poly pixels in game don't convey the same amount of detail the drawings can. They really nailed these two games, they're works of art in many ways.

[–] popcar2@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm starting Dawn of Sorrow now and man, that game suffers from the most generic early-mid 2000's anime art style. The portraits are very uninspired, and I think Soma Cruz maybe has the most boring main character design in the franchise. He's the generic anime pretty boy with a cool coat.

The game's still very fun though, but I just can't take the character portraits seriously.

[–] LemmyPlay 3 points 1 week ago

My thoughts exactly. I'll never understand. I also felt that the overall environment wasn't very dark and mysterious, it seemed to follow the art style in the that same generic direction. And of course DS touch screen gimmicks and poor pattern recognition are painful during big battles.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have never played a Castlevania game (or a Metal Gear game) so plan to buy collections for both and give them a try.

Good to hear that at least some of the games still hold up well.

[–] popcar2@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Start at Symphony of the Night then make your way up! I wouldn't recommend playing the '80s and '90s Castlevania games unless you enjoy borderline unfair arcade games.

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

aria of sorrow is also a good starting point. the steam port is terrific

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to give old ones a try, but I am also afraid they would be too difficult for me now. Maybe if I can pickup older collection at good sale.

[–] slimerancher@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'll be getting the collections on Switch, hopefully that port is also good.

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

I want to play metroidvania games, but I always struggle with boss fights. My reflexes are too slow.