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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Ok now do guns

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine

Political lobby group

To promote non-animal methods in research and education (opposition to animal testing) and a plant-based diet for disease prevention

A political action group is hardly an objective scientific third party providing dispassionate evaluation of science.

We could rewrite the article title as "Vegan organization tells MAHA to not eat animals"

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That doesn’t “discredit “what they have to say automatically. This comment would fall under the appeal to bias logical fallacy.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

this comment doesn't commit any fallacy. it is just pointing out dishonesty

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Agreed, it absolutely doesn't discredit what they say.

But the group name and headline are written in such a way that it sounds like a unbiased independent research organization made a conclusion based on rigorous science, so its worthwhile to be clear about the biases of the headline.

PS I'm only downvoting you here because you downvoted me, fair is fair.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's important to bring up the Center for Organizational Research and Education:

The organization defends the alcohol, meat, and tobacco industries and has been critical of organizations including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Center for Science in the Public Interest, Mothers Against Drunk Driving, the Humane Society of the United States, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Organizational_Research_and_Education

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, was the article headline about this CORE lobby group? I must have missed that in the article.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That’s a group funded by a billionaire to slander orgs he disagrees with.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 3 points 1 day ago

Ok, that would make a good independent post to talk about the politics in science policy!

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Sounds like they will be fired and replaced by a nut job shortly

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"NO NO NO, NOT LIKE THAT!"

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

BUT ALL VEGETABLES ARE ULTRA-PROCESSED!!!

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean few people are actually against vegetables lmao

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yup, they’re "full of toxins" according to carnivore grifters.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago

Yup, they’re “full of toxins” according to carnivore grifters.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/natural-toxins-in-food

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Carnivore here, we aren't against vegetables as a idea, you do you, but we don't see them as necessary, and some people can't tolerate them (allergies, gluten, lectins, etc)

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

we don’t see them as necessary

as though it were just a matter of preference

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 day ago

Well, yes, the carnivore position is there is no essential nutrition missing from eating a animal tip to tail.

Eating veggies is a preference, at least biologically

[–] xep@discuss.online 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody says that all vegetables are ultraprocessed, that would be a silly statement to make. However, UPFs are mostly made with plant material.

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 0 points 1 day ago

People love to claim that vegans only eat processed foods 🤪