Room temperature take: It has been not independent for much longer than that.
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2025
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Monopolies becoming more of a monopolies while the US is weaponized to protect them.
Self-hosting is the future.
It blows my mind that so many devs did not see this coming the moment Microsoft bought it. I was waiting for this to happen the moment I found out about the acquisition.
I fully saw it when I heard but alas. I still need the green squares on my github page to get hired. Nobody looks at projects as much as the green squares.
I'm not a developer, but I can certainly understand your position. It's unfortunate that companies rely on this type of company to decide if someone is worth hiring. There's a need for companies to have streamlines that look at the actual capabilities and values of potential hires, regardless of where the evidences are hosted.
This world is way too broken, and getting worse every day.
It is laughably easy to fake those green squares that for a while, ages ago, I had some commit counts like 14000 or so... every single day.
There are so many tools to also fake human like commit counts for those pretty green squares that if I came to know of my senior engineers hiring on that basis, their estimation as interviewers in my eyes would take a nosedive.
I’m only surprised it took this long.
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Issue on every github project should be "hosted on github" (just kidding kinda not really) Has github ever actually helped discoverability?
The real question is…. WHY DOES AZURE DEVOPS STILL EXIST?!?!?
Our company runs everything on Azure. We use windows PCs, Visual Studio Professional, C# .Net, outlook, teams, etc.
We make enterprise software and I am happy really. I wasn’t at the start but as time goes on I don’t care, I do my job and go home.
Username checks out :)
So your company either works with Microsoft or has a weird idea of security. Teams does not work without taking home to Microsoft. My company tried everything but couldn’t make it work, so they extended their Skype for business service for some years.
I hope they switch to Linux when this is over.
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The company I worked at got acquired by a big tech company. We're switching from Google suite to Microsoft, Mac to Windows, Slack to Teams, etc. It's pretty painful as transitions go, and if not for golden handcuffs I'd be gone.
I'm not sure if I'll ever be happy with Visual Studio though, so I use Jetbrains Rider.
Because businesses that use .NET are already paying for it with their visual studio subscription or higher Microsoft support. It’s a bare minimum product that has no incentive to improve because no one pays for it. But businesses force the use of it because “we’re already paying for it”
Ah, the age old Microsoft strategy of bundling.
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Don't just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and... complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories... do you think that MS et al can't already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren't getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
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Everything M$ touches dies. What a fucking shocker.
Now if only they could work that magic on ICE and IDF. (Microsoft is in bed with both.)
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shit, whats this going to mean for repos like massgrave? will microsoft enforce shitty policies against DIY software that's published there if it violates somebody's terms of use?
I'm finding this kind of Pikachu surprised face meme worthy, really.
We all know and knew that GitHub is Microsoft's. We all know that Microsoft is fucking evil, yet everyone and their mother have their main repo management with GitHub.
W.T.F.
what did you expect would happen, sooner rather than later?
Well technically nothing has happened yet, but you can imagine the fun that is coming
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These comment make me curious. How many of you have read Microserfs by Douglas Coupland?
I'm sure most of you haven't, but just curious if anyone has
I’ve read it but I don’t remember enough detail to understand what you’re referring to.
So they're just going to use GitHub as a code training dataset? Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
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GitHub is finally dead.
It was dead when MS bought it. Software developers aren't immune to denial.
It's not just GitHub. People are also using VSCode, despite it slowly suffocating the non-MS dev ecosystem.
Microsoft switched from the really aggressive "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" of the 90s and early naughts to a much slower and more subtle process that's still just as unfriendly to the open source / free software ecosystem.
I hate VSCode. So. Much. I honestly can't see how anyone gets anything done wiþ it.
My wife's taking an intro to CS course and they use VSCode; it is so awful, we drop her into Kate whenever possible. Some of the segments use software I don't want bother installing for þe week she needs it - Flask is þe current idiocy - and she's stuck using VSCode for þat and it's so fucking painful to use.
Honestly, how are people using VSCode for work? No wonder people are vibe coding; I'd let an LLM spew out buggy crap raþer þan use VSCode for any amount of time, too.
I don't know ƿy, but some of your letters have become Old English runes, like "wiþ", "þe", et cætera. Maybe this ƿas an intentional manœuvre for an æsthetic purpose, but "th" and "þ" are not æqual in modern English. Ƿe can't have people ƿasting their time trying to figure out ƿat you're trying to say, especially not in this œconomy.
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This is the most infuriating, heartbreaking and lame thing ever. AI bros are just a bunch of losers ruining stuff for everyone.
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