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Are we moving to Codeberg now?
Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.
Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won't get the "drive by" contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
So what you're saying is that we need federated git.
Forgejo, the software project powering Codeberg, is working on adding federation but it's got a long way to go before it's a usable feature
The closest I found that works is: https://hackaday.com/2024/03/16/radicle-an-open-source-peer-to-peer-github-alternative/
https://radicle.xyz/
It took a LONG time to get set up on one of my systems. It worked! Unfortunately, I found that just having git by itself was fine for my purposes. And most people are throwing in behind codeberg which is fine by me.
Huh. Gitlab just said it's too hard with their cut staffing numbers and they're not doing federation.
Yeah, IRRC thus far they only have starring (not unstarring, mind you) implemented and it's not even in main yet
...git is federated. i'm assuming they're talking about things like issues and runners, but i don't think that's really necessary...
As in the federation of Forges, like Forgejo is trying to do
yeah that's what i don't really understand. they're like building a separate layer on top of git, when things like fossil exist.
I mean, this is more-or-less how the Linux kernel is managed. Linus just has final say on what gets released.
I remember Sourceforge, bitbucket, and a host of other "source" servers. GitHub was nice for a while, but its just another iteration of the same. Heck a lot of the major repos (like Linux for example) only do mirrors to GitHub. The same with codeberg, Gitlab, and other centralized services.
At my last few jobs, we couldn't host on GitHub because of HIPPAA compliance. It was fine. Self hosting git is VERY common in quite a few industries.
So we need a free & federated identity provider to sign us up as easy as 123 there.
it's called ssh
i am still rooting for patch requests to become more mainstream, it seems like the best possible solution. it just needs some discoverability.
Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy
OAuth is just making yet another account with a 3rd party authorization mechanism.
Yes, but you don't have to worry about the password
There's plenty alternatives.
Unfortunately none has quite as good of a search engine. Do any actually have social features like friends and feeds?
Why would you need those in a git server?
Search is really useful for finding error messages’ origin as well as to find random example usages of APIs that have less than stellar documentation. The nice thing about GH search is that it allows many different facets like language and is pretty flexible by allowing exact search terms. Of course the corpus size helps as well.
No, I know why you would want search, I was asking about why you would want social features.
Because humans are social creatures?
I would like to but I do want some private repos.
Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.
A forge like Codeberg is great for collaboration, but if you mean private as in just-for-yourself, pushing to a bare repo on just about anything will get it done. No need for a software forge. If you already sync files somehow, like some dropbox equivelant, put bare repos on there and push/pull from there. That said, forgejo is very easy to self-host and the identical UI to Codeberg.
I don't do any development, but my stepkid is starting to get into it, so I set up a forgejo container on my server. I had zero issues setting it up and now I'm planning on using it for my own purposes.
Top notch stepdad.
Git is great for a folder of plain text notes and writing. Even binary files are okay, but you don’t benefit from the line-by-line diffs.
Private repos, if you don't need a forge, can easily be pushed to a VPS with ssh
Doesn't Codeberg have private repos? I could've sworn I've created one.
https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/
https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-private-repositories?
It does: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/first-repository/ (visibility option)
Thank you. I will have to look.
I haven't used Codeberg before so I was kind of just assuming.
I think I will make my way over to Codeberg.