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[–] mike@mtgzone.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think we absolutely have a Vivi problem. Not sure what they were thinking with 0: create mana ever being printed on a card, but it's clear they (and all of us too) never saw the interaction with Agatha's Soul Cauldron.

Cauldron will most likely eat a ban to pay for Vivi's sins, but here we are. They won't ban the card while it's being actively sold and opened imo, and certainly not from the FF set.

[–] lovestha@mtgjudge.social 4 points 1 month ago

@mike @MysticKetchup cauldron is the type of effect that ends up breaking things.

[–] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

It's just like Hogaak, or Nadu. Except this time they really won't ban it because it's part of a brand deal.