The pattern is the same throughout history
When governments commit small war crimes it tends to fly by unnoticed. However, it always seems to escalate to the point where it draws lots of attention.
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do you know how badly you have to fuck up to get australia to recognise the land rights of indigenous people?
I don't think it will be a big win for the Palestinians. One reason why this hasn't happened in the past is that there is no reliable, functional government in place that governs over all of the territory. You had Hamas in Gaza and the PLO in most of the West Bank and they don't see eye to eye. This hasn't changed. It will be difficult for these established governments to cooperate with a a fractured non-functional one so the benefits for the Palestinian people will only be patchy and homeopathic.
So I fear recognizing a Palestinian state is actually an impotent, diplomatic gesture - like: "we see what's going on there, it's horrible, and we don't have the resolve to do anything else to bring Israel back to the status quo ante." It's finger wagging at Israel more than actual support for the Palestinians. It's a gesture that can easily be reversed as well, like the orange one moving the US embassy to Jerusalem. And I think that's why these announcements of recognition fall on very deaf ears in Tel Aviv. It's political theater for the audiences in the countries whose governments have announced this. "Look, we are doing something! (But we're doing not that much really, we could do other things as well, isolate the Israeli government and/or cut it off palpably from necessary economic and military supply chain support. But we won't. It's a complicated conundrum, that Middle East. And we're not quite ready to jeopardize the existence of Israel over this.)"
Hitler created Israel by mistake
It wasn't a mistake. Zionism is the one topic where (some) Jews and Nazis/Antisemites are in agreement.
For zionist Jews zionism means they have their own place somewhere where they won't be persecuted.
For antisemites zionism means that Jews disappear from their country of origin without any effort on the side of the antisemites. In fact for people who are antisemites but still dislike the concept of genocide, supporting zionism is a "more ethical" way of getting rid of the Jews.
Because of that both the Nazis and antisemites all around the western world supported zionism.
Also keep in mind the timeline of all of that. Antisemitism is really old. Like centuries old. Zionism really started to pick up steam in the late 19th century and started to actually get implemented from 1917 on. Nazis became a thing around 1919.
They got to power in 1933 and the holocaust started in earnest around 1938/1939.
There was a lot of time between making "soft" antisemitism mainstream and gassing Jews. The concentration camps didn't spontaneously appear the day hitler got elected, and like always in politics, the Nazis first started with more pallatable forms of antisemitism (like supporting that all Jews move out) before moving on to more extreme forms (ending with the most extreme possible: basically an extermination order).
That's a disingenuous statement. Zonists created Israel but without Hitler it is doubtful Israel would happen in 1947