It turns out that there isn't one big break, there are many small cracks that have been patched. I was reading about 13% performance increase in benchmarks, which seems significant.

Ah, here it is: https://www.phoronix.com/review/debian-13-benchmarks

[–] thecoffeehobbit@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

If you have an nvidia card, which is very common and can't always be avoided, there is significant benefit in newer drivers, for one

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago

More like "If it isn't as good as it could be, don't do anything to improve it."

[–] xav@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

So I guess you're still using a PSTN modem ?

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What was stopping the person before? I've been using debian as my desktop for years.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Watching the video, the main reason is native up-to-date drivers, mostly for nvidia

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not into videos, but yeah ok, the person had a particular obnoxious computer that they wanted to use, rather than something being wrong with debian. I always take linux compatibility into account when buying hardware in the first place.

[–] OrekiWoof@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

is this satire?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

You don't pick hardware to support you OS? Weird.

[–] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Same: just built a frankenstein PC of spare parts gathered with the purpose of running Debian 13 on it because that's what I love. But I also recognise that I know my way around stuff when I need to troubleshoot...

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"For now", is more like it.

This happens with every refresh 😂 6 months from now you'll be fighting to get Mesa updated or something.

[–] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is that not in Backports?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you're asking for problems, I suppose you could do that, but they still aren't updated regularly. Slightly before testing releases hit. That's nowhere near where it needs to be for gaming desktops for most people.

[–] ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Backports are specifically tested for the purpose of being compatible with stable, so there should be no issues.

I can't really comment on what what gaming desktops need, I feel like you could absolutely play games without the latest drivers at all times, but I don't play any modern AAA games.

If you need bleeding edge software, then don't install Debian, for sure. Or go unstable with all the potential issues.

[–] GenChadT@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Ugh, too true. I'm using 13 now after a long hiatus of Windows only desktops and was shocked to find KDE had undergone yet another refresh.

[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

With flatpak and distrobox, the underlying system and package manager does not matter too much anymore to the end user.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Assuming most end users for Debian even have monitors connected...

[–] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

bs-manager flatpak won't work, the AUR version does. That's more convincing than I'll ever need to go back to Arch.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Some people prefer to have a game mod manager working immediately, others prefer their system working for years instead of failing to boot after an update.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And then those who want both use arch. I know we love our memes, but this one is really out of date.

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Sure it is...