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[–] Fourth@mander.xyz 23 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Friend I don't give a fuck I just don't want to live in hell anymore. I'm going to be first in line slamming my fist on the table for a progressive but apparently we need to be at Gavin Newsom before we can ask for a progressive. Lemmy and Current Affairs isn't the average American. We suck. That's abundantly clear to me now. You know what? If Mandani or similar figure was running for president I'm all in. I'm all in on that no matter what. I'm in for the most progressive candidate at all times. Unfortunately right now I just need to not be under threat of everything completely falling apart and not being fixable. Maslow's hierarchy I need that first foundational level to build my pyramid on. I don't necessarily mean this to convince anyone, sometimes you just have to yell into the void because it all feels so bad.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Damn, .ml is starting their crap early. They already got trump back in, now they are working to get more of the GOP in power by fomenting infighting....reruns suck.

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[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 123 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (54 children)

Do I like seeing him fuck with Trump? Yes.

Is he a dirty neo liberal? Yes.

Would I support him in a primary for President in 2028? Probably not. I sure hope someone better shows up.

Would I support him if he won the Democratic primary? Yes. Assuming we get elections. Assuming the DNC hasn't fully fractured and a third party candidate cannot reasonably win.

Would he fix our country? No. See item 2.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Its not hard, people.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You Americans don’t learn, constantly punching left, nobody is good enough to be an ally. While the right is unified and eating your lunch

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 16 points 1 day ago

Punching Newsom is punching up. Telling voters they are wrong to criticize him in regards to economics, Zionism, LQBTQ rights, and social safety nets IS punching left.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 day ago (12 children)

He's not on the left though. He only ran as a dem because he is in California and Republicans have no chance there

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This is true to an extent, but when you look at the history of the moral majority (new right movement) and what actually unified the right, it should give you some context about how the Dems aren't really doing themselves any favors by distancing themselves from progressive values. The right were always willing to offer some concessions to what were once considered fringe voters (and now is essentially the base of the Republican party) in exchange for their vote.

I say this as someone who is almost always willing to vote blue no matter who, continuously catering to the wealthy and failing to follow through on promises is going to be the nail in the coffin for Democrats (and possibly American democracy in general). Midterms will probably be their last chance to get it right (if we're even allowed to vote) and they are definitely not off to a good start by giving the cold shoulder to Mamdani.

It's very hard to battle voter apathy and "both sides" disinformation when Democrats will not even acknowledge that much of what progressives are asking for is pretty reasonable. Establishment Dems seem to believe once they're accused of cultural marxism (which btw is a term that was popularized by the same people that created the moral majority/new right) they will lose centrists voters that might help them gain an edge over the competition. Meanwhile they seem to be oblivious to all the support on the left that they're absolutely hemorrhaging.

Some of that support is going to the right (and those are the people Gavin Newsome seemed really be worried about reaching with his podcast that "reached across the aisle" to some absolutely vile people), but a big chunk is being lost to people who just no longer see a point in bothering to vote for an establishment that seems to intentionally exclude and dismiss them.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago

I don't give a shit. Anyone effectively getting under the skin of that demented pedophile should be encouraged to do so. Fuck these purity tests.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

Nope he’s not. But he’s not as bad as trump.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

Maybe he's not a progressive, but it's great to finally see a prominent Democrat loudly opposing Trump. Too many are obsessed with undermining their own party while letting the US go to hell.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago

He might not be a progressive but he's not a Russian cum rag, so speaking as a member of a (for the moment) allied country, he is lightyears ahead of your current guy.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn this comment section reads like it's sponsored by the Newsom 2028 campaign.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

History repeating.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No fascism is better than fascism. Hopefully if he runs and wins he actually fixes the problems that led to fascism. He needs to tax the wealthy at 98%.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hopefully if he runs and wins he actually fixes the problems that led to fascism

Neoliberals like himself are a huge cause of where we are right now.

He needs to tax the wealthy at 98%.

He will never do that, unless he has a sudden and complete change of heart.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

He only looks good compared to the opposition.

[–] berno@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago

Why, what did he do? I keep hearing hyperbolic statements with no facts that make me think Russian bots are responsible.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Sadly so many people are okay with ignoring it because it's not trump

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (7 children)

He's not worse than Trump. So is the solution to not vote? Putin, is that you?

Edit: the Russian astroturfers are strong in this thread.

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