this post was submitted on 21 Aug 2025
369 points (98.9% liked)

World News

49296 readers
2037 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] fort_burp@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Are children throwing rocks counted as militants? And how are military reserves counted, are they considered civilians or militants, since, in the case of Israel, they have a uniform and weapon nearby to be ready to be called into service?

Edit: are reserves counted differently in times of peace vs. when a declaration of war has been made?

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Oh God, the AI! Who let the AI into out database? And why the hell did the AI rename all of Hama's into "civilian"? ChatGPT is antisemitic!

- Some Israeli press person, probably

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And we know they chronically lie to cover their tracks… so… that’s the lowest they could drag that number and still make it sound somewhat feasible. Think about that.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That was my first thought... who makes up the other 17%? Journalists and the occasional hamas guy?

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They usually go with 'men of military age', which is an age range of 16 to 65, to pad their numbers of Hamas.

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 day ago

That is so rotten but aligns neatly with their whole ethos of “no innocents”

[–] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 day ago

Don’t forget first responders and healthcare workers.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly this does not include the 100s of thousands of uncounted dead buried under the rubble. The real percentage of civilian casualties is likely even higher than this gruesome number. Israelis are slaughtering the Palestinians at holocaust levels, and it seems they’re just getting started…

I think it's time that we all start calling it the Palestinian Holocaust.

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio#%3A%7E%3Atext=According+to+the+CACE%2C+in%2Cfatalities+in+warfare+in+cities.

Well above the modern average of 50%

Also above the levels of the second intifada.

It's similar to the chechen wars with Russia.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

In World War II at civilians constituted 60–67% of casualties,[5] but some sources give a higher estimate. In the Vietnam War, the civilian ratio is estimated at 46[6]–67%.[7] Two studies found civilian ratio was 40% in the Bosnian war.[4] During the Second Intifada, civilians constituted ~70% of Israelis killed by Palestinians and ~60% of Palestinians killed by Israelis.[8] Civilians constituted ~75% and ~65% of all Palestinians killed in the 2008 war and 2014 war, respectively. In the 2023–2025 war, civilians have constituted 68% of those killed by Hamas attacks,[9] and ~80% of those killed by the Israeli invasion.[10][11][12]

[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

That some significant collateral damage. (cough, cough, genocide)

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 2 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 2 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 2 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

[–] NoMoreTrds@toast.ooo 1 points 1 day ago

JORDAN LUND IS A DENIALIST CUNT AND SO ARE LEMMY WORLD ADMINS

load more comments
view more: next ›