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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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this is Habryka talking about how his moderating skills are so powerful it takes lesswrong three fucking years to block a poster who's actively being a drain on the site

here's his reaction to sneerclub (specifically me - thanks Oliver!) calling LessOnline "wordy racist fest":

A culture of loose status-focused social connection. Fellow sneerers are not trying to build anything together. They are not relying on each other for trade, coordination or anything else. They don't need to develop protocols of communication that produce functional outcomes, they just need to have fun sneering together.

He gets us! He really gets us!

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (11 children)

How it started: gonna build the robotgod but nice

How it went: wow we need to teach people how to think.

How it ended: we cant do basic things people have done since we decided to walk upright because some people are mean.

Even 4chan can trade/coordinate/and have functional outcomes, sure often for evil. But most of us are not even active on lw. Skill issue. If you cant beat a bunch of sneerders who are not even participating what chance do they have against the godAI (same with not being able to convince one human).

eponymous sneerlcub

Eponymous even. Guess they don't know who named sneerclub.

Some more sneering, why use make footnotes like you are actually linking to proof, it is done all over the place and it tricks me a lot 'ah they backed it up with a source' nope some random footnote which is so wordy it breaks the site on mobile.

the more likely it is that someone can get away with committing a crime, the harsher the punishment needs to be for that crime.

The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

Now, does that mean that everyone is free to vote however they want?

The answer is a straightforward "no".

Holy shit, hahaha what are you wasting your time on...

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How would this situation play out in a world like dath ilan? A world where The Art has progressed to something much more formidable.

Yeah indeed how would they solve these problems in Ravenloft.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

we cant do basic things

That's giving them too much credit! They've generated the raw material for all the marketing copy and jargon pumped out by the LLM companies producing the very thing they think will doom us all! They've served a small but crucial role in the influence farming of the likes of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. They've served as an entry point to the alt-right pipeline!

dath ilan?

As a self-certified Eliezer understander, I can tell you dath ilan would open up a micro-prediction market on various counterfactual ban durations. Somehow this prediction market would work excellently despite a lack of liquidity and multiple layers of skewed incentives that should outweigh any money going into it. Also Said would have been sent to a ~~reeducation camp~~, quiet city and ~~sterilized~~ denied UBI if he reproduces for not conforming to dath ilan's norms much earlier.

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[–] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Indeed, the LinkedIn attractor appears to be the memetically most successful way groups relate to their ingroup members, while the sneer attractor governs how they relate to their outgroups.

AND OLIVER COMES IN FROM THE TOP ROPE WITH THE HOTDOG COSTUME

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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago

Jesus christ, just ban the guy! Don't write a million words about how much he gets under your skin! Rude!!!!

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I, an anonymous man from the internet who called Peter Thiel a racist hotdog, am the one with real power.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago

It is very important we do not congratulate you over this, or we will become linkedin!

[–] jonhendry@awful.systems 5 points 3 days ago

You might need to update that to "racist wax hotdog" judging from his appearance lately.

[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 13 points 3 days ago
[–] scruiser@awful.systems 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

I'm feeling an effort sneer...

For roughly equally long have I spent around one hundred hours almost every year trying to get Said Achmiz to understand and learn how to become a good LessWrong commenter by my lights.

Every time I read about a case like this my conviction grows that sneerclub's vibe based moderation is the far superior method!

The key component of making good sneer club criticism is to never actually say out loud what your problem is.

We've said it multiple times, it's just a long list that is inconvenient to say all at once. The major things that keep coming up: The cult shit (including the promise of infinite AGI God heaven and infinite Roko's Basilisk hell; and including forming high demand groups motivated by said heaven/hell); the racist shit (including the eugenics shit); the pretentious shit (I could actually tolerate that if it didn't have the other parts); and lately serving as crit-hype marketing for really damaging technology!

They don't need to develop protocols of communication that produce functional outcomes

Ahem... you just admitted to taking a hundred hours to ban someone, whereas dgerad and co kick out multiple troublemakers in our community within a few hours tops each. I think we are winning on this one.

For LessWrong to become a place that can't do much but to tear things down.

I've seen some outright blatant crank shit (as opposed to the crank shit that works hard to masquerade as more legitimate science) pretty highly upvoted and commented positively on lesswrong (GeneSmith's wild genetic engineering fantasies come to mind).

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 3 days ago

I’ve seen some outright blatant crank shit (as opposed to the crank shit that works hard to masquerade as more legitimate science) pretty highly upvoted and commented positively on lesswrong (GeneSmith’s wild genetic engineering fantasies come to mind).

Their fluffing Chris Langan is the example that comes to mind for me.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] scruiser@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

Yes, thanks. I always forget how many enters i need to hit.

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