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Glad they're taking off the gloves a little, but it's always been a non-option to just make our lives significantly and irrevocably better like M4A or the PRO act and although they're good at trying and failing, they never talk about the consequences as dire as they actually are with few exceptions.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 116 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

What, are you going to vote for the guy who will put his knee on your throat and murder you? No, of course not. You should vote for not that, because not that will not do that and if someone else does, they will glare disapprovingly from a safe distance, secretly appreciating that it isn't them being murdered.

Democrats. We're not actively evil.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If it gets really bad, Chuck Schumer will write a stern letter and Cory Booker will, like... stand in one spot for a long time talking about stuff.

[–] FundMECFS@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 weeks ago

Simpsons in 1994:

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (27 children)

And yet, if I have a choice to be policed by Chauvin or Thao, there is no question that I choose Thao.

Yes, the ultimate goal is to deprive both of these men of their power. But for that to happen we need Chauvin to take his knee off our neck.

~~This is barely a metaphor by the way. Since Trump pardoned Chauvin and the Democrats didn’t.~~ Evidently I must have been thinking of another pardon.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You know we need to destroy the power of both

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Of course. And my belief is that neither voting nor abstaining from voting for anyone is going to achieve that.

However, it may make the task easier or harder.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

yeah the other option is revolution, and with that it's still not guaranteed you end up with what you want when the dust settles. Good chance China or Russia will take advantage and jump in and fill the power vacuum in the US when civil war happens.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 5 points 3 weeks ago

There's another real possibility.

History seems to be repeating itself. Right now the U.S. is in the "Germany in 1933" phase. If we don't deal with the situation ourselves then it's possible that a coalition of other countries could do the job for us, in which case "innocent" Americans will be nothing more than collateral damage.

Who knows how much the world's Nuclear arsenal will change the situation, but if any regime in the last 100 years is stupid and pig headed enough to try and win a thermonuclear war.... that's possibly why he says so many stupid and out of pocket things- to convince people that is definitely an option.

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[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 8 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

No you need the guy with the camera to set it down and throw a fucking Molotov.

Become ungovernable. We already live in a police state.

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[–] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

trump hasn't pardoned chauvin from my research as a note.

He's garbage and his entire administration is collectively like Darth Vader huffing spray paint.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

You’re right I must have been thinking of someone else.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Except they are actively evil they don't just ignore Republican actions it wasn't like Biden was looking the other way when murder by police officers was reaching record highs and Israel was commiting a genocide with his support or Obama was looking the other way when millions are violently deported and many others blown up at weddings by drone strikes. They commit plenty of active evil themselves.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Democrats. We're not actively evil.

That's an inspiring bumper sticker. NOT.

Unfortunately, it seems to be the entire Democratic strategy since 2000.

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[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Going to hell for smiling now, 🤦‍♀️

Also, picking the least shitty option is always better than being ok with the shitty option. If you want better options then go start actively volunteering for a good option.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (22 children)

Ok, and when they ratfuck the good option and instead give you republican-lite?

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Learn what they did and work against it? Strategies change all the time.

Being ok with the republican choice is accelerationism, which always fucks over everybody.

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Learning what they did doesn't help, the only tool we have to make sure ratfucking isn't an effective way for conservatives to gain power. When progressives get ratfucked, the republican agenda moves forward no matter if a republican or republican-lite who is happy to work with republicans wins.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Establishment ratfuckers and the ratchet effect - name a more iconic duo.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

start firearms training and put an antifa patch on your denim jacket, join an anarchist reading club and start talking about Mao's policies at family functions.

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[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Or you know reject the false binary being presented and organize the change needed outside of electoral politics.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

Shh, you're telling people to actually do something instead of blindly following the status quo and hoping someone does it for them.

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[–] ano_ba_to@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Bernie is the one with the camera.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 13 points 3 weeks ago

Which makes all of us George Floyd.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

What I always appreciate about this meme is that they picked Tou Thao to represent the Dem platform to Chauvin's Republican. Thao famously denied any wrongdoing up to sentencing and described himself as a human traffic cone. As a result, he got a worse sentence than even other officers who put hands on Mr. Floyd(though not as bad as Chauvin of course). It really gives it layers.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

US politics is literally Kafkaesque. You have an opposition party who refuse to be an opposition party.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not really... it's just your garden variety corruption. They're both owned by the same ultra-wealthy corporations and individuals, so of course they're both doing the bidding of their owners.

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (14 children)

The democrats are more active than that.

look at Harris’ proposal for Medicare for all: co-opting progressive terminology and proposing a system that ultimately keeps our disgustingly fractured system of wasteful and redundant privatized administrative bureaucracy. Only now there would be a two lane system where the rich class have better doctors and care while the poor “technically have insurance”, just with long wait times and shittier doctors and facilities. If you think this wouldn’t be the case literally talk to anyone currently on Medicaid just about finding a provider.

The poor would now technically have Medicare but overall will be bitter about how terrible their experience is, giving ammo to the right to fuel us towards fascism, the democrats get to go on about their “healthcare win”that doesn’t really fix anything of substance for 99% of people, and even more tax dollars are funneled into top donors like Aetna and Cigna. Win win (except for the worker class, once most jobs stop providing insurance to anyone outside of upper management/executives as a perk to cut costs since “you have Medicare now” and material conditions are worsened significantly for 60+% of us).

It’s a more substantial version of the individual mandate from obamacare. Technically everyone gets insurance now, but at increased cost to you, which makes people resentful (especially young people) and accelerates adoption of the right wing politics on a single issue for politically apathetic voters (I never voted but now I’m voting republican bc Obama forced me to buy $200/mo health insurance and then the republicans got rid of that), doesnt actually fix any of the pricing or complexity issues, and funnels tons of cash to key donors (see the “forcing to buy insurance with stuff tax penalties for not doing so” bit). A half baked solution compromised by their inability to do literally anything on behalf of their constituents before their donors

It would be a more accurate depiction if the other cop was like handing the murderer a weapon going “don’t worry, this will help you because then it won’t be as painful, I’m on your side really”

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Someone actually talking sense in this sub instead of spouting reactionary tripe. Rare sight.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's quite literally worse. Chauvin faced consequences.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

only after world wide pressure, most don’t get that

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Took me a minute to get the context of what I was looking at. I was going to ask what the LEO on the left side was doing.... Then.... Yeah. I don't even know that motherfuckers name. I also don't care to. Fuck him.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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