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So I am working, I need to check this open source software documentation and I get this message.

It basically says Internet Service Providers are forced to block Cloudflare IP addresses as LaLiga claims it is used to illegally stream the soccer games.

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[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 62 points 2 weeks ago

Italian here: one Saturday I start to get lots of downtime notifications

I don't understand what's happening, because they come and go, I get hundreds of them

I connect to the server, waste four hours, everything looks ok but pages don't load? Weird?

I go to sleep without solving the problem

The morning everything looks fine, so I can go to my self hosted news reader and I discover in my feeds that the FUCKING soccer league blocked cloudflare "accidentally"

The best part of our system is that if the block isn't disputed within a week, then the IP address is permanently banned. Can it be more stupid than that? Do they really think that pirates won't change their ip address?

We gave the keys of our internet to two litigious copyright trolls

And this exclusively harms honest people because pirates just use a VPN. I saw pirate websites that when accessed from an Italian IP address have some legitimate content, need to access from a VPN. So the block is completely useless

[–] phorq@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm confused, they want people to pay money to watch? But money can be used for drugs and corruption...

[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Soccer in Spain (and also in Italy) has enough power to bend the laws to their will.

Right now, soccer is available almost exclusively through paid channels (that are not cheap, in italy it costs around 50€ month and that won't give you all the soccer, because some games are exclusive to other paid channels].

This makes people rely on piracy because of how expensive and bad the system is.

Since the soccer is so powerful, it can block innocent pages just to block people from watching soccer for free.

[–] jojo@piefed.social 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

(And also in Portugal) Welcome to south Europe (I guess)!

[–] needanke@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

Germany did this too up until a month ago https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/573659 .

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People shouldn't use Cloudflare for everything anyway, it unnecessarily centralises the internet and blocks Tor and VPNs

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

Cloudflare works perfectly fine with VPN.

But browser plugins to fuck with the fingerprint don't.

[–] chuso@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago

I would call this more than just mildly infuriating. Every time there is soccer, a big part of the Internet stops working for me (including my own Netxcloud and Matrix instances, which I am proxing via Cloudflare).

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It seems to be “blocked” via DNS because they’re just rewriting the DNS record to point to their server (which is displaying the message). It makes me wonder if the actual IP address is indeed really blocked.

Is this easily bypassed via DoH or DoT?

[–] Aganim@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If they are using their ISP's DNS server they probably don't even need to use DoH or DoT, just switching to a independent DNS server is often enough. But yeah, otherwise using an encrypted DNS connection should also fix this.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 2 weeks ago

That’s a good point. I always assume nobody wants to use plaintext DNS anymore, and I’m so paranoid about the blocking that the encryption would be a must for me personally.

[–] chuso@fedia.io 8 points 2 weeks ago

No, the whole IP addresses are being blocked. Which is causing a huge issue for sites hosted in Cloudflare because thousands of sites share the same IP address and, when they find one single infringing site, they block the whole IP address affecting thousands of innocent sites. This has been widely reported by TorrentFreak, you can search there about how this works.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

I don't give two shits about football or anyone pirating it, the problem is that they block a bunch of websites that have nothing to do with that. They had a similar idea last year when they wanted to completely block telegram in the whole country because some degenerates were sharig cp using the platform. The scorched earth policies are not just mildly annoying.