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EU recognition of US car safety standards could have dangerous consequences for the safety of drivers, pedestrians and cyclists, NGOs warn.

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[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 55 points 3 days ago

Any car safety standard that permits the Cybertruck for regular use is a bad standard and should not be in use.

[โ€“] meliante@lemmy.pt 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What in the actual fuck?

We're going backwards? Because of a fucking orange?

I want to be loud and nasty but I really want to punch somebody in the mouth!

[โ€“] NanoooK@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We are going backwards because of our own politicians, they are the one signing.

[โ€“] meliante@lemmy.pt 9 points 3 days ago

Bunch of cowards and sell outs.

[โ€“] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US does not require the turn indicator to be a separate light from the brake light.

The US has almost no current cars with an orange turn indicator on the rear. The red brake light doubles as both.

When US cars are made for other countries, the separate orange light is added.

America only has 2nd or 3rd world consumer protection.

[โ€“] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

They don't have consumer protections. They have rubber stampers for the highest bidder.

[โ€“] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

EU recognition of US car safety standards could have dangerous consequences for the safety

This is obviously wrong.

It could not have these consequences. It is absolutely going to have these consequences.

[โ€“] Eq0@literature.cafe 5 points 3 days ago

I am also very confused by the conditional. EU has safety standards because safety. Obviously lowering the standards lowers safety!

[โ€“] lgsp@feddit.it 20 points 3 days ago

Nevertheless, Dudley Curtis points out that "over the last decade or more, the number of deaths on the roads in the United States has risen, while in Europe it has fallen slowly, but it has still fallen".

In the meantime in Europe we want to halve the road deaths by 2030 and have no deaths on roads by 2050, and we are already far from being on track to hit the target:

https://urban-mobility-observatory.transport.ec.europa.eu/news-events/news/european-commission-releases-preliminary-figures-road-fatalities-2024-2025-03-21_en

[โ€“] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If EU will capitulate to Trump and say more deaths are reasonable, that is a policy on EU level, right? If the countries enforce a higher standard that means nothing. Sure, it is probably unlikely, like if a small country have stricter regulations they will get a less competative market that in other EU countries who also follow Trump. But in principle, or am I mistaken?

[โ€“] Vincent@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

I don't think that that's possible by EU rules. The single market is a very important tenet of the EU, and that works best if a company only has to comply by a single set of regulations to cater to the whole market.

[โ€“] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I am not sure how permissible it is for countries to require higher standards than the EU when it comes to road safety. Also what would be the consequences? Pulling American looking cars out at the border and sending them back? That will be quite the headache for Schengen.

[โ€“] Tenkard@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago

They'll just forbid the sale of these vehicles locally, finger crossed for enough states to do that. Citizens will also have the civic duty to harass these vehicle owners.

[โ€“] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I think in other areas -- but I may be mistaken -- EU regulation looks like "member countries must implement X or stricter rules". If a country fail to implement it, it gets a fine. But yeah, I'm not sure either if it is permissible. The consequences would be that companies would not import cars to the EU that they cannot sell in any EU country.

[โ€“] kiterios@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Implementing a standard at the dealership or registration level would be practical. Cross boarder traffic would make the effect incomplete but probably still impactful.

[โ€“] ddplf@szmer.info 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

European cars sold at American dealerships were built around the stricter European standards.

This change will also affect the American drivers of European vehicles.

[โ€“] cy888@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Any chance Toyota imv coming to the USA through this? USA needs small truck

[โ€“] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Europeans need to understand that their standards in terms of safety, environment, justice, equality, etc are only applicable, as long as Europe is relevant economically.

It's a hard reality. But still a reality.

[โ€“] absquatulate@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure why you're downvoted, it's true. China doesn't like dealing with smaller players and they're not afraid to say it. russia bullies smaller players. The US has kept appearances for a while but now they're in full break up EU mode. They all want to see a divided europe and are working towards that, because a divided europe is easier to ignore and can't set standards by itself.

[โ€“] SebaDC@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

I get downvoted because most Europeans (like me) don't realize that they live on the dividends and credits from past decisions.

Many things that we take for granted, actually need to be defended.

This is flagrant when we look at women's right. For most us, it's something that is absolutely normal. This is however not the case in many neighboring countries.

But now that our influence is fading, it's being questioned. In the USA and within the EU, among extreme right / "Christian" groups.

In order to change course, we need to show that we are relevant economically. It's not like we are not. But we behave as if we weren't, and we are missing strong industries in tech from the last 20 years.

We fail to finance strategic companies and rely on foreign funds. We fail to defend our economies and companies from having to rely on foreign money.

Until we fix that, our only alternatives will be either huge setbacks (social, healthcare, life quality, etc) or a world war.