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    [–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    That random systemd service waiting 1.5 minutes.

    You all not suspend/hibernate?

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    [–] Aganim@lemmy.world -4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

    Meanwhile:

    My W11 Pro PC: I'll wait installing my monthly updates until you give me the okay. And I'll wait for the reboot until you say so.

    My Manjaro laptop: sorry, I couldn't build package X. Go f*ck yourself while I provide you with no information on how to fix this.

    *A manual build cache clear later*: all good! But now perform our weekly reboot.

    It's horrible, but these days Windows updates actually give me less issues AND require less reboots than Manjaro. 😞

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    [–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 13 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    I do yes | sudo pacman -Syu && sudo poweroff

    (Update and poweroff)

    [–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

    Assuming you enter your password upon running sudo, isn't there the risk of sudo's privilege timing out if pacman takes too long to complete? I believe I tried something similar, intending to run a one-liner I could start then walk away from. However, I ended up returning to see the system not rebooted hours later.

    Or is yes somehow supposed to take care of this? Sorry, newish Debian user here who hasn't ventured outside the distribution much.

    [–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

    Yes, in this ~~command~~ one liner, the system should not power off when the update took too long.

    Or is yes somehow supposed to take care of this?

    No, yes is simply answering all questions asked during the update procedure (start upgrade, replace config files, restart services) with "yes".

    [–] somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

    ~~There's no timeout for sudo. When permitted, a process runs as root and then closes.~~

    ~~Also, the system will still shutdown when update fails because pipes do not care if previous commands exit with a nonzero code, unless pipefail is set.~~

    Edit: i'm blind.

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    [–] rem26_art@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    ya'll aint just pulling out the power plug?

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

    I flip the breakers so I can keep the power plug connected

    [–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

    I flip the breaker whenever it's time to shut down.

    Y'all don't delete WSUS, block all of the M$ IPs at both your HOSTS file and your router, and stop all update processes?

    Do you even know how Windows works?

    [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I thought the Windows update system is actually not too bad. At least compared to Mac.

    [–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 day ago

    Yea, it has a robust rollback system, which is part of why it takes so long now.

    But... I only do updates a couple times a year to minimize the headache on my personal machines.

    My work machines it's not my problem, but I reboot them at night a couple times a week, just in case.

    [–] tyler@programming.dev 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Compared to Mac? Mac’s is so much better? The number of times windows has fucked me over by updating on a restart.

    [–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    Fair enough. My experience on Mac has been pretty bad compared to Windows but to be honest there could be recency bias there. I use Mac every day for work and don't use Windows very often but at least Windows has never suddenly closed all my apps because it decided it was time to update.

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