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windows: installing updates, do not power off
me: the fuck you are dismantles laptop and rips out battery
Linux: shutdown now
me turning off the power supply: (i didn't have anything open so hopefully it's fine...)
On my work PC I disabled automatic restarts and I'll just hibernate it for weeks at a time, keeping my work stuff open. Convenient, and I can install updates when I choose to.
Meanwhile:
My W11 Pro PC: I'll wait installing my monthly updates until you give me the okay. And I'll wait for the reboot until you say so.
My Manjaro laptop: sorry, I couldn't build package X. Go f*ck yourself while I provide you with no information on how to fix this.
*A manual build cache clear later*: all good! But now perform our weekly reboot.
It's horrible, but these days Windows updates actually give me less issues AND require less reboots than Manjaro. π
If you want something easy, you can install one of the "Just Works" distros. Even though Manjaro advertises themself as beginner-friendly, they certainly are far from it.
Debian and PopOS are both great choices.
Or Mint
The problem there is the word "Manjaro"
Unfortunately while they market themselves as beginner friendly that's simply not true
Windows just randomly installing updates only when I'm working on something with a customer.
one of the reasons I'm moving away. pisses me off so much at work, I don't even want it at home
One thing I've seen my computer do a few times: log me out, by itself. Some rare times I try and unlock back into my session, my current open and active user with my programs running, and instead I am greeted not by my desktop as it was when I locked the screen, but rather the lock screen as it was before I even logged in the first time around
My Windows is more like "I am scheduling the restart. Pray I don't schedule it any sooner."
Mine will do the restart and boot into Linux.
Windows Updates are always like that. Halfway through it's got to restart, bootloader picks Linux, Windows doesn't get to finish the other half of its update til the next time it's chosen.
You can configure Grub to boot into whichever entry you last selected. Makes rebooting much more convenient
you know you can make it so the last used OS gets booted right?
Is Linux higher in your boot priority?
Linux is higher in any priority.
When I had a dualboot, that's how I ordered it.
I like how you censored systemd
People need to learn that it's ok to say systemd on the Internet and stop self censoring
Let's not get carried away. Fuck and shit are ok, but I draw the line at s*****d
~~init.d~~ straight to jail
Yes, let's keep this community family friendly. I could do without such obscenities.
This is just not true.
- Linux does have a graceful process.
- Windows's process is not graceful
Yeah and in linux when you say "kill this process" that process fucking dies. No 10 minutes of windows trying to negotiating with a crashed program to close. No I'm not angry about this happening to me at work today, why do you ask?
Both Windows and Linux have ways to gracefully ask a program to close and to force close it. Not being able to select the correct one on either system is a skill issue.
I am not sure how Windows handles processes, but on Linux you have different signals. SIGKILL
(9) generally kills the process immediately, but there are other signals like SIGTERM
(the default signal, 1) which asks process to gracefully quit, and many others.
If you want to know more, check the signal(7)
man page or this Wikipedia page.
And when chrome freezes rest of the desktop goes gray and everyrhing else freezes too including the task manager.
Managed to wreck my NVMe drive with an unsafe shutdown on linux the other week, gave it a few hours for the self check, booted back into the distro and has been running fine ever since.
Pretty sure windows would've just set the computer on fire at this point.
Linux is so strong I turn it off from the power button. Saving 5 seconds.
That's weak. I always pull on the power cord until the plug comes out. That shuts it down in a second flat.
I was talking about a laptop with non-removable battery of course! I turn off my desktop via Zigbee remote hooked to Home Assistant which flips a Zigbee power switch that the AC power cord is hooked up to. Even faster death than going under the desk and unplugging the power cord. Even just unplugging itself takes time.