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Australia and the West have experienced, hand over fist, improvements in GDP and living standards since we moved our manufacturing and resource extraction overseas*.

Even as the working class got sold out**, living standards improved across the board. The rich got richer and so did the middle class - with most Australians joining the middle class, during and, since the post-war era.

We were getting a good deal on our imports, taking more from poorer countries (Global South) than we gave in return, but that has been coming to an end.

The Global North (the First World) has monopolised trade with the Global South, by Capital and demand but also coercion and regime change, which ensured a good deal. But with the rise of the BRIX and China's Belt and Road initiative, the Global South has more opportunity for equal exchange of goods and services.

While the IMF used third world debt to influence policy change, allowing Western Capital to buy up and exploit industry, Chinese banks are forgiving debts and negotiating mutually beneficial agreements (to the benefit of China).

While Western Capital built limited infrastructure to extract a specific resource, China is investing in not just general infrastructure but education and the creation of a local workforce.

The Global South are trading with each other. They have more options, trade is more competitive - we get less of a deal.

Where previously Australia could afford to give Corporations absurd profits and still have money for the people, this will be less and less possible. Australia needs to re-embrace the policies of the post-war era, which ensured a dignified life, and roll back the last 50 years of neoliberal policy built for an age which no longer exists.

* Not just in the neoliberal era, but all the way back to the start of colonial expansion.

** With manufacturing moving overseas and the denationalisation by various Liberal -and some Labor- governments.

*** consent manufacturing became harder to enforce

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-49687-y

[2] https://ourworldindata.org/trade-and-globalization

[3] https://www.bu.edu/gdp/2021/03/08/bailouts-from-beijing-how-china-functions-as-an-alternative-to-the-imf/

[4] https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/10.1142/S2377740023500173

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 23 points 1 week ago (37 children)

Per capita gdp has been dropping for years and productivity gains has been poor in general compared to our other western peers.

The big problem is consolidation of mega corporations that suck all the profits up from smaller businesses and take those profits overseas, paying no tax here,

That, and treating housing like a commodity and not a human right. We need to build more houses and tax large multinationals fairly.

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[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 13 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Wages have dropped to one third in value in the past 50 years.

It's wages.

If this happened quickly we would say it's a crisis but because it's been slow it's been easy for employers to blame inflation for losses in living standards.

Join a union.

Meanwhile, Trump/maga are engineering a world economic crash. I suggest people cut costs, even if that means living with extended family, and save.

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[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Tax the miners, and stop our corrupt politicians walking into fat mining jobs. We'd have everything with that one change.

[–] Kayel@aussie.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Is the change in unequal exchange more impactful than Capital accumulation, etc. - I'd like to know. Either way, cost of living is not improving.

I am interested in critical response on whether the increase in productivity will balance out the equalisation of exchange.

But my, unsubstantiated, view is equalisation of trade will increase cost of living even with productivity considered.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We were getting a good deal on our imports, taking more from poorer countries (Global South) than we gave in return, but that has been coming to an end.

???

China is Australia's largest trading partner. Trade and investment with China is central to Australia's future prosperity. In 2023, China bought $219 billion of Australian exports, worth 32.5 percent of Australia's total exports to the world; China is our top overseas market for agriculture, resources and services. Chinese investment in Australia reached almost $88 billion by the end of 2023.

our top exports are to china?

[–] Kayel@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I am referring to unequal trade, - us getting more in return from the Global South (Asia, south america, Africa, etc.) for what we're giving them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-59881-1

https://globalinequality.org/unequal-exchange/

This is true for our trade with China, but I am specifically speaking generally.

"China’s exchange ratio with the Global North has improved over time. During the 1990s, the exchange ratio was on average 34 to 1. In other words, for every unit of embodied labour, materials, land and energy that China imported from the Global North, they had to export 34 units to pay for it. As of 2015, the ratio had declined to 4 to 1." https://progressive.international/wire/2025-04-18-china-unequal-exchange-and-the-present-world-historic-juncture/en

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X

Does that answer your question?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

none of your links refer to Australia, they just seem to be a general vibe

https://progressive.international/wire/2025-04-18-china-unequal-exchange-and-the-present-world-historic-juncture/en

And if you intensify the exploitation of your domestic resources, you undermine the ecological basis of production. Capital, therefore, requires some kind of “outside”, an external frontier, where it can exploit labour and nature with impunity, and where it can externalize social and ecological costs.

We live in Australia, we are the major exporter of resources?

https://www.dfat.gov.au/sites/default/files/australias-goods-and-services-by-top-25-exports-2024.pdf.pdf

Not only that but I'm not sure how well we pay Afghanistan for its resources it'll still be a corrupt islamic shithole.

It feels real simple to be like, the south is poor because of the west, all you need to do to counter this is find a country that was poor and now isn't anymore. Singapore, Israel, Qatar, etc

Even eastern european countries as they shake off communism and socialism and embrace capitalism have had considerable improvement in quality of life

[–] Kayel@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Trade with China is essential to Australia, don't get me wrong, the profit of the trade has, and will, change.

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