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[–] commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The vast, vast majority of artists do it as a job to survive and not for fun though.

It can certainly be a hobby that is done for fun with no time constraints, where you can just make whatever you please, but it can also be stressful, soul-sucking necessity once money gets involved.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I would consider many of the construction trades a form of art, and thats certainly still a job. Art is more a way of doing something than a specific action in my opinion. You can also create art in a way thats not expressive, which would mean the person making it might not be an artist.

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[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is a world-building element of Heinlein’s posthumous novel, For Us the Living, where UBI allows people to do art or other low-pay trades. The UBI system in the novel enables people who don’t want to work, are tired of work, or who aren’t good at working, to live and pursue what does make them happy since their livelihood doesn’t rely on working a job. Of course, Heinlein has some libertarian nonsense to harp on in the book, but it’s wild just how long we’ve known that there is enough to take care of us all and that working to live is a detriment individually and collectively.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

Nope. ^1^

    1. I've met artists.
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I used to be the kind of optimist that would largely agree with this post. But in the past decade I've seen the truth. Most people are profoundly uncurious and uncreative, even when encouraged to be.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

"Is this rich kid privilege? Or is it really just [privilege described in a different way]?"

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Rich people have it too easy" is such a crabs-in-a-bucket mentality.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In what way is "everyone should be able to explore their artistic side" a "crabs-in-a-bucket mentality"?

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I don't think that's what the person you're responding to is saying. I'm fact, I think you might actually be in agreement with each other.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

No idea. I didn't suggest that.

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