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E: apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don't be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.

Android has always been a fairly open platform, especially if you were deliberate about getting it that way, but we've seen in recent months an extremely rapid devolution of the Android ecosystem:

  1. The closing of development of an increasing number of components in AOSP.
  2. Samsung, Xiaomi and OnePlus have removed the option of bootloader unlocking on all of their devices. I suspect Google is not far behind.
  3. Google implementing Play Integrity API and encouraging developers to implement it. Notably the EU's own identity verification wallet requires this, in stark contrast to their own laws and policies, despite the protest of hundreds on Github.
  4. And finally, the mandatory implementation of developer verification across Android systems. Yes, if you're running a 3rd-party OS like GOS you won't be directly affected by this, but it will impact 99.9% of devices, and I foresee many open source developers just opting out of developing apps for Android entirely as a result. We've already seen SyncThing simply discontinue development for this reason, citing issues with Google Play Store. They've also repeatedly denied updates for NextCloud with no explanation, only restoring it after mass outcry. And we've already seen Google targeting any software intended to circumvent ads, labeling them in the system as "dangerous" and "untrusted". This will most certainly carry into their new "verification" system.

Google once competed with Apple for customers. But in a world where Google walks away from the biggest antitrust trial since 1998 with yet another slap on the wrist, competition is dead, and Google is taking notes from Apple about what they can legally get away with.

Android as we know it is dead. And/or will be dead very soon. We need an open replacement.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Definitely going to be trying for some kind of linux phone for my next one.

Debating biting the bullet on the ~$800 cost of a fairphone.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 2 days ago (17 children)

I would like to move away from Android and iOS. But I'm not sure it's really feasible. Hell, I might even have to move fully to iOS, because that's what the wife uses. That's the challenge with Linux or alternative OSes on mobile. It goes against the purpose of the device - it needs to be able to interact with the people in your life.

Because I have Android and she has an iPhone, we can't easily share headphones (her AirPods or my generic ones) or some of the other accessories. For instance, I don't want a device without a 3.5mm jack, so none of my headphones work for her. About the only thing we can share is the USB-C cable, and it's less efficient on my device. We have to use Google Maps to share location, the built-in functions don't talk. We have to use regular SMS and calls or Discord to talk, because FaceTime and iMessage don't have compatible Android software. I love her with all my heart - and frankly speaking she's worth more to me than software advocacy.

That's what causes ecosystem lock-in. As Sartre said, Hell is other people.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I might be a dick for pointing it out, but the willingness to switch tech ecosystems for a spouse should really go both ways

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I really want one but I dont think I can live with it daily. Too much shit relies on phones now. Linux is perfect for my desktop and I never need windows, but I dont think a linux phone is gonna work for my banking or investment apps

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate.

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[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Haha yeah, probably. Honestly I'm shocked they don't have an Android store like Epic. But I digress.

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