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As an anarchist instance I’d have thought you have more in common politically with .ml than the liberal instances, no? And anyway, given that PieFed has actually functional user-level site blocking, imo there is really nothing to be gained from de-federating.

Considering that dbzer0 has changed to tolerate genocide denial and the admins openly praise Hexbear, have openly said despite a 2/3s vote against the matter that they intend to re-federate with Lemmygrad in the future, and say that Critical Support(tm) for China doesn't make one a tankie, I don't really know that you're the best source for what there is to gain or not gain from federation with tankie instances.

I would agree with you if .ml was run by less authoritarian styled socialists. However I have not found that to be the case. I have found them to be basically just as bad as liberals, and the really bad ones can be just as bad as fascists. Our only common ground is the destruction of the current capitalist system, however that is often times where the similarities end.

Their fanatic support for authoritarian dictatorships, denial of genocides, and open hostility to those that don't follow their beliefs (including towards anarchists) does not make me view them as friends or allies. Those that have not met me with open hostility because I am an anarchist tend to treat me more as a tool to further their own agenda rather than a comrade. That is not a dynamic I wish to be a part of. MLs do not tend to treat us anarchists as equals, instead they tend to treat us as open enemies, tools, or they infantilize us.

'Heretics are worse than heathens' as they say. I suppose I can tolerate liberals knowing many of them are only so because it's the default they grew into and most people aren't politically switched on to know otherwise. It's those who've come to the same conclusion as other leftists but decide the solution is for them to be the ones wielding state power that scare me.

Thanks for your input, you've given me something to think about as some clear rules might be part of a solution to any future issues if we do keep federation.

Thanks for your input Sunshine.

So far it seems the community is ambivalent on the topic, I may re-asses the stance in the future once the comm grows a bit more. But who knows, maybe we'll get an influx of people and a clearer result.

Thanks for your input Comrade_Spood, and welcome! Pleasure to have you here with us.

I guess that's one of the benefits of PieFed over Lemmy is that per instance de-federation is apparently working much better. Combining your suggestion with Unruffled's above I'm currently thinking of making a sort of 'Welcome to PieFed/Fediverse' primer page, with some warning on the Triad/other questionable instances and information on how to block them.

Alternatively, I wonder if there's the possibility of making it opt-in rather than opt-out. So by default new accounts do not see it, but if they wish they can allow it.