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Apparently I'm now a shitlib for not buying into this disgusting tankie propaganda that it was all the Wests fault and Stalin had to ally with Hitler.

For a mod who loves to ban others for bad jacketing, they sure have no problem doing it to other anarchists.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Just remember, whenever you read, "social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism," you are reading part of the justification for why the USSR should sign a treaty with Nazi Germany. The actual justifications for this are complicated, I think it is actually not completely straightforward such as "Nazis bad, treaty with Nazis make USSR fascist." However that is exactly the sort of campist and obscurative reasoning that Stalin tries to make. The argument was not "the USSR is still critically underdeveloped next to the most industrially advanced country in Europe, and we need some time to industrialize before we can oppose European fascism." It was, "The social democrats in Europe are worse than Nazis, so the Nazis need time to crush their moderate wing."

You can kind of understand the Real Politic of Stalin. It's the same justification for the endless purges of his political enemies. I think that the historical basis for authoritarianism extends beyond the "great man." But the guy was probably the greatest historical revisionist of the last 150 years. Both his enemy Leon Trotsky and Trotsky's one-time secretary Reya Dunayevskaya meticulously documented how Stalin had history literally rewritten to make him seem like a more revolutionary figure than he was.

I recognize that Trotsky doesn't have a good rapport with anarchists, nor should he, after 1921. But If any leftist tradition "weighs like a nightmare on the minds of the living," it is the legacy Stalinism.

What's wrong about having a wartime ally and then declaring war on them?

I do that all the time in Total War. It's not a big problem if you have the armies to back up your chaotic strategies and if they complain, just wipe them out.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Calling this one a PTB, it's not a shitlib thing to not ask the USSR to have not temporarily partnered with Nazi Germany.

[–] unruffled@anarchist.nexus 61 points 2 days ago

Seems like a bad call to me too, PTB. I'll reverse the ban.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/26473218

[–] Kasane_Teto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

PTB, Defending stalin for siding with nazis is crazy

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Defending Stalin, period. Is crazy. He arguably killed more people than Hitler...

[–] Kasane_Teto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

true, idk why ur getting downvoted

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Because tankies don't like it.

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