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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (21 children)

Honestly, I'd be tempted to grant the premise. Let's work together to end corporations. See what happens. When every commercial entity is an employee-owned small business worth less than $5M, communism vs. socialism vs. capitalism becomes a very interesting discussion.

[–] astutemural@midwest.social 7 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Employee ownership is literally socialism my friend.

The defining characteristic of capitalism is that anyone with money (capital) can own the means of making more money. If you remove that, it is no longer capitalism. Period. It would be something else.

In this case, with universal worker ownership of the means of production, it would be socialism.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Never in my life have i understood why the working class (me and every single person i know) DONT want workers to own the means of production. You DO THE WORK you should OWN IT. Its simple.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

A lot of people do want socialism, but it's not as simple as having society magically reflect the desires of the people.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

This isn't really accurate. Petite Bourgeois worker-owners in competing firms still exist within the framework of capitalism. Socialist ownership would be more collectivized than focused on cooperatives, though cooperatives can play a role in the developing stages of socialism (like they do in socialist states today).

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Source/explanation for why capitalism kills 100 million people every 5 years please?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (33 children)

is ukraine and gaza not evidence enough?

or venezuela, or iraq, or iran, etc.?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

latin america alone surpasses that.

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