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I (22M, American) was raised by a conservative family and taught traditional gender roles. I was told multiple times that that "gay" men (men who didn't conform to traditional masculine gender expression) were ruining society and literally deserved to die, and that people out in the real world do the dirty work of disposing of them through stochastic violence.

Unfortunately, I turned out almost exactly how I wasn't supposed to. I wanted to embody a cute and delicate masculinity, my true personality was caring, affectionate, and emotional, and I loved cute and pretty things. Ironically, I was so in love with feminine energy that I developed an emotionally intense heterosexual attraction to women, though in a way that was nothing like the typical straight model.

Long story short, I faced an entire childhood of ridicule and isolation and eventually developed an autoimmune disease with disabilities as a souvenir. I wanted to take my own life, but the Internet existed, so I numbed myself with endless slop content instead.

The progressive side of the Internet taught me that there are a lot of ways of being beyond the "conform or fucking die" model I was raised with. I learned that a minority of women actually could be attracted to me despite my utter disregard for the manliness rules, something I was blackpilled on before.

But I am still too scared to leave home. It is hard to motivate myself to do anything because the source of my fulfillment is to make people happy, but I can't meet anyone because I'm frozen in fear. I still feel like everyone will hate me for being too feminine, and that the occasional stray vigilante will try to put a bullet in me. Even if I could defend myself, it feels too risky: I have to win every single time, while they only have to win once. On top of that, I am now visibly disabled, so I have to deal with ableism on top of everything else.

I can't function this way. I'm not motivated to take care of myself or put effort into online college because I see no point to life if I can't be social and authentic IRL. I literally just want to make people smile and feel cared for, but it feels like I'm too alien for people outside of a progressive echo chamber to accept me, and life will be full of constant gender policing, harassment, and threats of violence (especially because this is the U.S. we're talking about). The most productive day of my life happened when I thought for a moment that I had a chance, but I fell back into my old habits once I started having doubts again.

It could be worth noting that I live in central Ohio, somewhat close to the city, so it's not like I live in the middle of a rural hellscape. I also saw a non-binary androgynous person working at a clinic the other day, which seems like a good sign? I went to school in a more rural area, but of all of the people who seemed to like me, most of them were closer to the city.

If you have faced a similar situation, how did you make it through?

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And I'm sure all those conservative men lie their asses off because unless they do, the only pussy they will get is a fleshlight.

[–] gaybriel_fr_br@jlai.lu 0 points 1 day ago

It does sound like the US...

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't give advice, sorry.

Do you have autism by any chance?

If people hate you for this, they'd have REALLY hated Jesus

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Dad I want to grow my hair out long"

"No, men must have short hair. Long hair is the sign of the devil"

"But all these pictures of Jesus have long hair"

"go to your room!!!"

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What city are you close to? Can you look for work in Columbus? It's much more liberal and there are more people who are like minded. You might feel safer being yourself, while still being close to home. It would be a smaller move, if you have to move.

If you have the ability to, please seek help from a professional. It sounds like you are really struggling. Once you are in a better place mentally it will be easier to tackle these life things you don't have the motivation to do. You have been surviving so far, following what was expected of you. Now that there isn't a definite next step it's harder. I would recommend putting whatever energy you have into finding a therapist.

You can do this! You have reached out for help already, which is really hard. Honestly you are amazing to have survived with who you are intact. I can't imagine the strength it would take to live with people who believe you should be killed. To constantly be afraid of being found and hurt. You grew up being enemy lines when it should have been a safe haven.

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're similar in personality/sexuality and the hostile environment we grew up and live in, but diverge with health, age (I'm 35), and how we dealt with or reacted to said environment. Masking is what I did and still do depending who I'm dealing with. I noticed growing up that so long as I put in just bare minimal effort, and I mean barely even tried to pretend and play along, people wouldn't dig any deeper.

Most humans are entirely incurious and intellectually lazy as fuck following their shallow life scripts, so if I didn't stir the pot their delusions weren't disillusioned and they'd leave me alone. My mother co-founded a Baptist church for example and I just barely played my part despite never at any point believing in a god. Yet nobody ever called me out on it because I went through the motions every Sunday. I didn't sing and regularly stared at the ceiling yet because I showed up and didn't outwardly resent my parents being outwardly an obedient child towing the line, nobody cared. Not even suspicious, they were friendly with me instead. They wanted conformity so badly that they were willfully blinded by the thin act. That extended to all areas of my life even in grade school where many children are vicious cunts. To this day nobody has ever attacked my mask. They don't see it.

I slowly built a friend group of liked minded people and I guess got lucky with the lack of betrayal? Or not, I seem to be skilled at vetting people before deciding to take the mask off or not.

I want to say I think you're right in that your fear response is unreasonably high and it is hindering you. I don't know how much harder masking is when disabled though :( I don't know how externally obvious it is to others in your case. I'm sorry I have no advice for that wrench in the gears of life. Conservatives truly would prefer you to die unaided in the streets even if they usually won't say it that directly in polite company.

I will say this still stunted me sexually, it took until my mid 20's before I found a woman worth revealing my true self to and I was initially insecure about lack of experience but she didn't care about that so it was easy to overcome once I had a chance to. To let those hyper vigilant guards down for romance is sadly still a great effort and slow to trust process for me. It's on another level to get romantically involved. A cold start date at a restaurant a non-starter for me, aleays ends in uncomfortable disaster. It's my localized bubbles of friendly environment in this shithole hostile province that freed me really. During post-secondary I rented a house with my closest friends and the house became the defacto party house with all our like minded friend groups converging and our friend's friends etc. That really fast tracked my socialization.

My friends and lovers now in my 30's after my partying days are long in the rearview mirror I meet through volunteer work and dance classes. I love to dance and there's always way more women then men who show up to such things. The other men who do show up are obviously more likely to be like-minded. Go to places where the helpers and/or expressive peoples congregate is my advice. I wager being around people like this will build up your confidence and subsequently alleviate some fear.

Working towards moving away to better places when you can is another potential option. I didn't myself, couldn't seem to bring myself leave everyone I already knew behind personally.

Hopefully something I said is helpful to combat your fear, but if not I wish you all the luck, OP.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You have a good heart and are stronger than you think.

Some of your instincts are exactly right, while some are a little off. You're right about finding better opportunities to meet like minded people in the city. Parts of Ohio are pretty progressive and open minded.

There are women who would love to get to know you, and that will only improve over time. As people get older and wiser, the stereotypical roles become less and less important, and what ends up mattering is having a caring partner who is capable of growth. That's you.

Last, yes, there are some people who might wish to do violence to anyone who is different. However, they tend to be cowards and opportunists and there are not that many of them. The point of terrorism is to make people afraid, because even though it's unlikely for any one person to be a victim, everyone feels like they could potentially be a victim.

It is extremely unlikely that you will personally be targeted with deadly violence just for who you are. It's even more unlikely to happen multiple times. The best thing you can do to protect yourself is to have situational awareness.

[–] ValiantDust@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think you would benefit from having a progressive community around you IRL, not just online. People who accept you as you are and understand your fears.

I'm guessing moving somewhere progressive to go to college isn't an option. But you said you live close to a city. Is there maybe some group you could join there? Maybe an LGBTQ+ adjacent group? I know you are straight and cis, but some of the people there probably have experienced similar problems and allies are often welcome. Having a working support network makes things a lot less scary.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This is the advice I was coming to give, with the addition of a specific possible group.

I know there’s a lot of the anti-religion sentiment on Lemmy (for many good reasons) but one community I’m familiar enough with to suggest are Quakers (AKA Friends). Quakerism is rooted in progressive values and even those who practice have a wide array of religious beliefs, many of whom lean agnostic or even atheist.

It’s one of the most LGBTQ+ friendly groups I’ve ever been a part of, and there is a Friends meeting in Columbus.

I hope OP is able to find a community that supports and loves him for who he is.

[–] allo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Kpop Demon Hunters Spoiler Alert

Rumi, Mira, and Zoey are demon hunter popstars.

But Rumi is half demon and living with it with only Celine, the person that raised her, knowing.

A bunch of stuff happens

then it gets revealed to the world Rumi is half demon

Rumi goes to Celine saying how now everyone knows

celine says to cover up, say it was all an illusion, make things right again

Rumi: no. no more lies. this is what i am

rumi: why cant you look at me? why couldnt you love me?

celine: i do

rumi: all of me

rumi leaves and that's the last celine is seen.

rumi goes to the final demon concert where teh demon king is about to eat everyones souls

demon king: you expect to fix the world? you cant even fix yourself.

rumi: i cant

demon king: and now everyone finally sees you for what you are

rumi: they do

and then rumi's demon patterns start becoming beautiful and she starts singing

some lyrics from rumis song: i broke in to a million pieces and i cant go back. but now im seeing all the beauty in the broken glass.

some lyrics from rumi's song: my voice without the lies, this is what it sounds like

mira and zoey return to her and a verse is: but none of us is out here alone.

imo that's what you need. you need a mira and zoey and to not be out there alone. you need people that really love you. all of you

and then the movie results in tons of crying and gets very blissful

and the key to maximizing her potential and truly being herself turns out to not have been to hide who she was, but to truly be herself.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Wow. You have a choice, live in fear or live. You aren't living.

[–] dragnucs@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Every man has a degree of feminity and every women has a degree of masculinity. So chances are you are just going to be unnoticed as a feminine male.

I guess you could just go out, face reality and look for yourself how bad or good it is going to turn out. I'd rather say nothing would happen, as we encounter all kinds of people out there.

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