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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/45704477

“Every move in my own home is monitored,” Yang said, sitting behind black curtains that block him from the glare of police lights trained straight at his house. “Their surveillance makes me feel unsafe all the time, everywhere.”

Across China, tens of thousands of people tagged as troublemakers like the Yangs are trapped in a digital cage, barred from leaving their province and sometimes even their homes by the world’s largest digital surveillance apparatus. Most of this technology came from companies in a country that has long claimed to support freedoms worldwide: the United States.

Over the past quarter century, American tech companies to a large degree designed and built China’s surveillance state, playing a far greater role in enabling human rights abuses than previously known, an Associated Press investigation found. They sold billions of dollars of technology to the Chinese police, government and surveillance companies, despite repeated warnings from the U.S. Congress and in the media that such tools were being used to quash dissent, persecute religious sects and target minorities.

Critically, American surveillance technologies allowed a brutal mass detention campaign in the far west region of Xinjiang — targeting, tracking and grading virtually the entire native Uyghur population to forcibly assimilate and subdue them.

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U.S. companies did this by bringing “predictive policing” to China — technology that sucks in and analyzes data to prevent crime, protests, or terror attacks before they happen. Such systems mine a vast array of information — texts, calls, payments, flights, video, DNA swabs, mail deliveries, the internet, even water and power use — to unearth individuals deemed suspicious and predict their behavior. But they also allow Chinese police to threaten friends and family and preemptively detain people for crimes they have not even committed.

Hey, you remember how 23 and me went bankrupt and sold off all their data? Good thing the U.S. would never be as unethical as China bc of all those "baked in values" that keep us from even needing regulations.

Otherwise, we'd probably be staring down the barrel of a dystopian nightmare right now 😅

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

The corporation is subservient to the state and government. That is the hierarchy.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even believe there's hierarchy other than people are subservient.

We never should have allowed the supreme court to tell us that corporations=people. It's only inevitable that if corporations are people, and the government is supposed to be elected and controlled by the people, then corporations=government.

The corporations are now the state that controls all of us. The government is not supposed to be run like a business where workers toiling under greedy shareholders are driven to an early grave in exchange for fewer and fewer bread crumbs.

When the workers strike, the business collapses, and when the people finally refuse to keep the country running for the greedy shareholders who believe they've rightfully purchased it, so will the government.

That's exactly why they need this surveillance network in place to spy on everyone and crush dissent before it can occur.

[–] Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 1 points 3 hours ago

Well, that is not true. Corporations are subservient to government and the state. People like Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, etc. have to kiss up to the Donald Trump, or whatever world leader just so they can do business. Democracy is a polite dictatorship and inherently corrupt, based on the desires of the majority. What people desire isn't always right. Democracy is might make right.

[–] RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Ugh we really are the fucking worst....but the rest of us need to hold the 3% of Americans enabling this accountable....eat the rich