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My heart goes out to all the innocent victims of, and those affected by, gun violence.

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[–] jaycifer@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

I wrote this for a group chat, but I’ll also share my thoughts here:

In terms of the morality of the shooting, I think it comes down to the options people feel they have. The greatest strength of a democracy is that it gives voters the feeling of control over their political outcomes. If your guy/gal doesn’t get into office, it may suck for a while but you have another chance in the next election. As long as people feel they have some say over how the current system works, they will be much more agreeable with that system.

Trump and MAGA have been breaking that system for nine years at this point. It was bearable for most people the first four years as another election was coming, but during and since the last election cycle, that faith in a future election has been significantly strained. Things like Trump making comments about Musk “knowing the voting machines,” people “not having to worry about voting again” and mentions of a potential third term in office have cast doubt in the minds of many about whether the last elections were fair and whether future elections will be fair.

On top of this, post pandemic many peoples’ standard of living has fallen due to increased costs of essential goods, high medical costs, stagnant wages, and a housing market that has only gotten harder and harder to break into. For the past four years there may have been hope that policies could be enacted to alleviate some of these at a federal level, but a MAGA administration means those will not happen for at least a full term.

Combine that with the above concerns about the integrity of future elections, and the options that many people perceive themselves to have have narrowed further and further, and as Trump continues to test boundaries to concentrate more power to himself, only two options will be available in the minds of more and more people: Capitulate and risk a low standard of living or even death (either due to being an “outsider” like a LGBT member or being squeezed into homelessness/medical death due to finances)Fight back I think many people will gravitate toward option two. As discussed earlier that should mean political organization and voting, but also for the reasons discussed earlier that isn’t (or at least doesn’t feel) viable to many at this point. So that leaves violence as the only method of fighting back. We can see that with Brian Thompson, and now we can see that with Charlie Kirk. Both represented and participated in the systems that are restricting many peoples’ medical/financial and political options by running profit-oriented insurance or recruiting a generation of youths into MAGA.

All this to say, I don’t think it’s good that either was killed, but I frankly don’t know what else they expect people to do when the systems they support give people fewer and fewer alternatives.

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shows you how sick these people are, they don't care about children being shot, but fall over themselves to idolise a fascist asshole who got what he deserved.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

they clutched thier pearls when one of thier "own" gets shot.

[–] Affidavit@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

TIL by my coworkers that there was real shit going on in Nepal, Poland, and Qatar. Unfortunately, all of this was drowned out by every single fucking post in Lemmy being about some random American I never heard of getting shot (as if that were a noteworthy achievement in America).

I need to find a better way to get non-curated news. The public is clearly absolute utter shit for this purpose and no single news company can be trusted.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago

Don't know about Nepal and Qatar, but I was surprised to see the lack of talk about Russian drones in Poland.

Summary: At least 19 russian drones flown into Poland, 3 of them getting shot down. Not just border regions, no, deep into Poland:
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Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/10/poland-shoots-down-drones-over-its-territory-amid-russian-attack-on-ukraine-says-military
Missing description: Red area - Provinces where alerts were issued ; Orange dots - Airport flight operations suspended ; Red dots - Drone wreckage

One of the drones hit a house in Wyryki city:

Source: https://babel.ua/en/news/121291-debris-from-a-russian-drone-hit-a-residential-building-in-poland-what-is-known

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I too need a better news feed, too many people just on FB/Instagram say "why didn't I see this story on the news, they're silencing it." When you can just Google the story??

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

YouTube sponsorships and ads keep telling me about Ground News. I've also heard of AllSides. I have used neither of these and cannot attest to their usefulness.

If you saw it in an ad, it's probably better not to use it.

I've used ground news, i personally never got used to a purpose built news app.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Stress on innocent victims

Ol Charles just gets what he deserves

He ended up dying doing what he loved, defending to the death the 2nd amendment and the ability for randos to commit school gun violence.

Rot in piss, Chuck.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Charlie claims to be on the right but in his final moments he slanted left... curious...

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I'm aware the top one is Crowder. Kirk was literally standing under a ~~"change my mind"~~ "prove me wrong" banner when he was shot

[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I mean they're all the same tbf

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kirk was literally standing under a "change my mind" banner when he was shot

Holy shit, really? You have a still or something? I haven't forced myself to watch the video yet, not sure I really want to tbh

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mistake. Apparently his pavilion read "Prove me Wrong."

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

We should get the version with a river of blood flowing from his neck. It would really bring home the "change my mind" juxtaposition.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fuck now i want tater tots

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Shit, same. We should throw a Tots & Pears party.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I understand that pears are prayers, but what are the thoughts stand-ins? It's the tater tots thingy?

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tots and Pears

Thoughts and prayers

I like tots and pavers more.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

man those tots get me every time i gotta smoke less weed. or more i'm gonna go cook some tots

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

They were good tots. Air fried em up and had some Franks red hot

media has more in common with a piece of shit nazi than kids going to school.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

To be fair to American Media though, innocent school children bring in almost zero profit by themselves so.

Maybe if they applied themselves more.

[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago

Well yeah, one happens all the time and the other one is news.

[–] yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Children being shot in a school in us - me European: damn, how that us falls into stupidity.

(・_・)o

A racist misogynist fascist piece of shit being shot in a school in utah, who asked for no empathy for shit - me leftie European:

(~ ̄▽ ̄)~

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

It has become a man bites dog situation.