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“Charlie Kirk's assassination pulled me out of retirement. More work must be done.”

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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm glad the president called for unity in this time of division /s

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 48 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

If his security team had been at Kirk’s event, Rhodes said, the 31-year-old founder of Turning Point USA would still be alive.

Dude is delusional. Would you have stopped the speeding bullet?, or somehow known someone was on the rooftops? Or would you have been down there flexing on unarmed college students?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Rhodes? The guy who shot himself in his own fucking eye by mishandling his own pistol? Sure. I would totally trust him to protect me from gun violence.

[–] TwoForJuanBagelSale@feddit.org 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I dont know anything about charlie kirk. but why would there be security...? like... isnt he just like any other semi pop internet influencer?

if you need security maybe thats a sign that you arent a good person, lol.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

It's not uncommon for millionaires especially speakers that say derisive things.

Why his security allowed it to be in a quad rather than an auditorium is beyond me but seems fairly dumb when dude was saying he thought people were after him.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Dude had like a dozen people providing security, including several cops. As usual the cops failed to protect anyone.

[–] derry@midwest.social 2 points 6 hours ago

They're not legally obligated to protect anyone. "Most recently, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit upheld a lower court ruling that police could not be held liable for failing to protect students in the 2018 shooting that claimed 17 lives at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida."

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I agree that it seems the level of security was a factor before, during, and after the event. But anyone can claim "if I was there" after the fact. The takeaway is how this is motivating such groups to get ready for more, an excuse for violence.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

The mainland gitmos were already coming. The Proud Boys and the likes were receding because they were getting government jobs, not retiring. Anything that will happen now was going to happen anyway. Maybe this will inspire people to actually take a stand against shithead Nazis. Maybe someone will see this and think "so thats what children go through at school", or maybe this will repeal the concealed carry law on that campus before a mass shooting happens there. But what it didnt do was kick start this fascist bullshit.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 14 hours ago

Ohhh, you reminded me that after the Parkland shooting Trump said he would have charged in, even without a weapon.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-he-would-have-run-florida-school-n851266

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 33 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But, tell us again how the "radical left lunatics" are the violent ones?

[–] Statick@programming.dev 13 points 16 hours ago

When schools are terrorized by guns and children die, no problem. Cost of doing business.

The guy that literally said some gun deaths a year are worth it "to protect our other god given rights", literally dies for the cause. They call for "Civil war"...

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk was political the same way the Ku Klux Klan is political.

[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Deeply connected to current men in power?