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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/37300843

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

“The teachers are the first ones to complain, ‘Oh, you were late, da da da da.’ I'm like, ‘I was on the line, like, what do you want me to do?’”

Yeah... I would walk right tf out of there.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 116 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kids learning to avoid government control and setting up covert communication seems like a very important lesson later in life these days.

Kids have been doing this always. Did you not pass notes or make up codes as a kid?

It's just a new technology that weve allowed capitalists to ruin through creating addictions.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"the distribution of 350,000 internet-enabled Chromebooks, part of the city’s effort to replace aging devices obtained during the pandemic, and ensure that all students have access to technology in schools even as their personal devices are banned."

Yeah, force kids to give all their data to the one company that is doing such a great job at securing it.

WTF?

[–] padge@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My concern is just how disposable and unrepairable Chromebooks are. So much e-waste generated every 2-3 years.

Ewaste == corporate profits.

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Kids spend far too much time in school on their phones. This is simply true.

Counter point to this tho: Kids go to school knowing a shooting can happen at any time and need to have their phones for if that happens.

I can't support restricting phones before we restrict firearms.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

Sort of agree?

Yeah, guns must be banned completely in the US, fully agree, but phones in class too. Waiting with one for the other won't make anything better

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm assuming firearms are also restricted in NYC schools.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but the thing with mass shooters is that they don't give a fuck what the law says.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, they don't. But anyone who could smuggle in a phone could smuggle in a gun.

Yeah, and again: the thing with mass shooters is that they don’t give a fuck what the law says.

They're not going to go through the phone checkpoint, they're just gonna open fire. This would not stop a mass shooting.

[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

This is the answer.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

When I was in school every room had a landline phone that could make calls both within the building and externally. Is this not the case now? What advantage does it give for everyone to have a phone? Wouldn't that just create more variables, chaos and panic to deal with during an actual emergency?

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Why don't they just have rules like we did years ago. Have your phone out in class and you get a lunch detention, next time a detention, 3rd time sent to the office with a recommendation for suspension.

Kids have to learn to be responsible.... They will have their phone on them everywhere else in life, like work. Learning to be responsible about it seems like education.

[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I fervently agree with your hypothesis, but i dont think you know what it is like inside public schools these days. "Shut up bitch" is the likely response to enforcing that lol

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

So the solution is to start from a place of distrust? If you treat children like they’ve already done something wrong, what reason do they have left to behave? It also seems pretty damaging to their development to teach them that being treated this way be default is good or right.

If it’s a problem, sure, take them away. But not even giving them the chance to show some level of responsibility early, even if it’s likely they might not do it, is both lazy, and developmentally damaging.

Pick up the phone call the security guard to come escort them to the office for a 30 day suspension. Happens again expelled.

You can start day one with a message on the board that you have a zero tolerance policy for disrespect

The teachers are there to educate not parent. If the kids aren't afraid of getting in trouble then it's the guardians problem. Public education is something that is supposed to be available so kids can learn, and we have turned it into a place to dump your dependents so they can go to work apparently.

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[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Decks of cards are usually banned in schools. The schools consider card games to be gambling (even if there are no stakes) and that's not permitted on school premesis.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"usually"?

Not where I'm from (which isn't NYC)

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I grew up in the American public school system during pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh cards peak popularity. There were a whole lot of people who had card decks confiscated under such rules. I've lived in several states and while I don't know the policies for everyone state I've lived in's public schools, I do know that the school's my son has attended also have such rules.

So I guess YMMV.

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[–] WrittenInRed@piefed.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah I remember in highschool trying to play MTG with some friends during study hall and having one of the monitors come over and tell us no card games were allowed because of gambling, except go-fish apparently? Idk why go-fish would be less possible to gamble on, but...

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Dude I made some good money bettig on lunch gofish

Edit: autocorrect

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Start a gambling club that only plays high stakes go-fish games with real money

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

These phone pouches confuse me. They open with a simple magnet. Do they think kids don't have access to magnets?

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Soliman said students sometimes physically leave the building and go out into the courtyard for a phone break to play games or check messages during free periods or lunch. “The benches are always full,” Soliman said.

JFC, kids, you make smoking look like an easy habit to kick.

Just wait until they learn about 'zines. They're like scrolling TikTok, but written down, like for literate people. /s

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the most boomer-y comment I've read in a while. I remember my parents saying shit like this about me and my NES.

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Your comment is like the embodiment of one of those "Kids don't know how to swipe a book like an iPad" boomerslop comics

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (14 children)

So they're treating kids like prisoners?

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fences, rigid schedule, forced interactions, institutional food, mindlessly boring, mandatory attendance I'm going to do a Foucault and say yes.

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