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[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Paris is known for small and expensive apartments, some, if not the highest per square meter prices. Why would you want to emulate that?

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That isn't what they're saying.

Families are being forced into expensive low density urban housing or into the suburbs. This is being done by condo developers who make more money per square foot selling smaller apartments to single professionals and who don't want to build family apartments.

Regulations on minimum family apartments and minimum affordable units is how you solve that.

[–] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

But its essentially saying you want to imitate a situation of a whole family living in a small apartment in Paris' center due to high rent costs, again, but in Australia now.

I also live in an apartment with a small family in a large world Metropolis but the reason people pay a lot for the 3 bedroom apartments is not cos of availability but per sqm cost which is more in the cities.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We grew up in a 3 bedroom house. When we were becoming teenagers. Dad built an extension which expanded one of the bedrooms to provide enough room for two growing boys and enlarged the kitchen, added a family room and extended the lounge room into a lounge and dining room.

We had one of two dinners parties in the new Dining room, but it became the defacto study as we entered High School.

In order to free up the dining table again, the second extension featured a 4th bedroom (which opened onto a private deck), dedicated study and expanded laundry.

All these extensions were a complete waste of money because my brother moved out shortly after we completed it and my younger sister moved out to live with our uncle and aunty after a heated argument with Dad over the Liberties of Man (and teenage girls).

I believe that the house is now owned by some “New Australians” (and my dad would have called them) and has two families living together.

[–] kuribo@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This was possible in pre 2000s houses when there was a proper yard. Now the houses are bigger and the blocks are smaller. Can only extend upward, and only if it’s single storey.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah i do not understand that shit. "Here's fifteen rooms all the size of postage stamps and no yard!"

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

becau$e you can't cram a$ many of them into a build

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the problem. They should be mandated into the build. At least half the building is 3,4&5 bedroom apartments

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I had a mate living in a modern council apartment for a bit - the whole damned thing was literally the size of my loungeroom. That was not a n apartment, that was a human storage locker.

Shockingly, it was not good for his mental health

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah it's shit. Near my parents there is a bunch of old housing commission houses. 1 bedroom houses that are bigger than most 2 bedroom apartments. They need to build them with more space stacked up. Do that all around inner city train and tram stops and you get a lot of desirable supply.

[–] blind3rdeye@aussie.zone 9 points 2 days ago

Well we are building more - but I'm sure we could build more. But if Australia is to have higher density living (such that is it common for families to live in apartments) then we have to reduce car dependency. Increasing the number of cars when the traffic is already maxed out can only lead to problems. So we have to add more people without more cars. i.e. more people who don't drive cars.