You could make a service that is objectively better than YouTube in every single way but unless creators are getting paid >90% of them won't use it. There's a reason TikTok creators always try and grow their YouTube following and its because it pays significantly better.

I use peertube as much as I can, but there's only like 3 people that I like from Youtube that's also on Peertube: Veronica Explains (@veronicaexplains@tinkerbetter.tube), The Linux Experiment (@thelinuxexperiment_channel@tilvids.com) and Gardiner Bryant (@gardiner_bryant@subscribeto.me). I guess I watch Tafotin (@trafotin@spectra.video) from time to time as well.
I hadn't even used Odysee before, but just a cursory look I did find someone whose content I enjoy there, Naomi Brockwell. From the looks of it, it has some sort of crypto feature? (ew)
Also, how in the world does decentralization work there? There's only one website, that's odysee.com, that doesn't seem very decentralized to me.

I'm just so sick of the censorship on youtube, and the shadowbanning of comments. It feels like 90% of my comments aren't seen by anyone, not even myself.

Yesterday, but today is good as well. :-)

I personally run two. My own at video.firesidefedi.live.

And started a nonprofit that I'm still working on getting 501(C) 3 status in the US called BT Free, and currently running a moderated instance TubeFree.org. open for sign ups, but if you want to post video I need to see it first as again, heavily moderated. Eventually I plan on having storage costs for tax deductible donations, but idk when that'll be. And hopefully in the future can do revenue sharing or have a way to post creators.

I know Ben Pate, whom I talked with on fireside fedi and is creating emissary and bandwagon, is working on pay systems. As well as other folks.

The last I heard Youtube actually makes a loss in terms of cost and ad revenue but is worth maintaining because of the user data it makes available to its parent company. The low ethical standards and backing of one of the worlds biggest corporations allow it to outcompete any alternative.

If we're serious about dealing with the problem we need to deal with antitrust and privacy.

I doubt they will do it but video creators need to organise and put pressure on government to enforce the law on this.

We need to split clients from providers.

Invidious and freetube could diversify to accept multiple alternative sources besides youtube content.

If the content exists on multiple platforms the user could set a preference and orded or backup providers.

As creators make a switch to smaller platforms the users who use these clients are unaffected. It works similar to our fediverse, a community can just change instance and everyone can still access it the same.

Creators could test migration by posting to multiple providers themselves. Those reliant on YouTube money specifically could premiere on youtube and after some time reupload elsewhere.

Those that dont rely on youtube money can do the reverse where the later youtube upload serves more as an ad to their alternative main channel.

very much on the fringe

When mainstream is mostly consumerist attention grabbing bullshit, is it genuinely a problem?

The best time to switch away from youtube was several years back, after the growth phase of our few remaining tech players ended and maximizing revenue started.

The next best time is now. They will only get worse, and bow to powerful interests even more. Them demanding we prove age by providing commercially valuable info they will keep no matter what they say, should be the last straw for all of us.

Find smaller competitors, youtube and google are lost causes we need to quit both.

It's very difficult to get away from YT, too long time with free hands converted it to a monoply with all its abuses. Yes, there are alternatives like Odysee, PeerTube and some others, but they lack of contents, front ends, like Invidious, PokeTube, etc are getting killed more and more by Gargle. For music there isn't such a big problem, most content can be listen in Bandcamp and other streaming sites, but for other contents only can be found, eg. in the homepages of the Public TV (Movies, Live streams, Documentals,....). Another possibility are Desktop clients, but eg. FreeTube relays on Invidious and with this most Videos are blocked, VLC or SMplayer still working mostly. It's certainly a Mess and it will take years to be able to substitute really YT. Only manner until now is to use protection against the profiling and tracking (VPN, Proxies, ad/tracker blocker anyway mandatory, etc).

The problem is that there are no good solutions hosting and serving video with transcoding g is expensive. They do the best they can, but its not enough. This is where tech giants thrive, in the really expensive stuff that gets cheaper thanks to the economy of scale (is that the term? I forgot). Those are the big strongholds of YouTube, twitch, AI,

Nebula is pretty great.

I'm not coming at this from a privacy perspective but I have gone through the alternatives to see what (if any) I can practically use because I want to extricate American tech from my life.

There are three categories (ignoring a tonne for obvious reasons):

1. Region Specific:

• Bilibili (China)
• Niconico (Japan)
• etc.

2. Alt-tech:

• Odysee (US/Decentralized)
• Peertube (France/Decentralized)
• Rumble (Canada but close Trump affiliation)
• Bit Chute (UK)

3. Standard:

• Nebula (US)
• Daily Motion (France)
• TikTok (China)

I use Nebula, have briefly tried Tiktok, Peertube, Daily Motion, Niconico, and Bilibili. Perhaps I should consider the alt-tech platforms too but there's nobody on them and their reputations have been damaged by the far-right flocking to them when banned from YouTube for quite justifiable reasons. All platforms seem to have the issue that basically nobody of note uploads to more than one platform.

getting apps into appstores would make a big difference but if someone follows a particular person or if its free on youtube they are going to go there. I watch colbert on youtube.

Well, would it work if we get a few 1$ a month VPS and run mediacms on them ? each one could probably house a couple hundred videos and they have about the capacity to serve, maybe 100 users on gigabit internet with 4TB a month traffic allowance. That's still a lot of serving video for not a lot of money.

What does a different front end do for you? Serious question.

Probably over a decade ago.

Peertube is the future. It only needs more people, just like everything else federated.

Anyone trying to say a federated option is not the solution is a useful idiot and should be written off accordingly.

I still watch YouTube but I block all their ads.

BET live streaming still has 3+ minute commercial breaks, so i'm waiting for youtube to do the equivalent.