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What the wounds are telling us
To: @DropBear@theblower.au I'm adding the new group ATpalestineATfedibird.com so that more people will see this post.
@Peter_Link
The methods differ, but genocide is genocide. Israel is redolent of Nazi Germany. The Zionist ethno-colony must be dismantled.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-16/israel-committing-genocide-in-gaza-un-report-says/105780230
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@palestine@lemmy.ml
"Every country that is a member of the Genocide Convention has a duty to prevent genocide."
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"It remains to be seen whether other states, such as Australia, will act."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-16/un-report-on-israel-genocide-msg-to-nations-including-australia/105777232
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@DropBear @palestine@fedibird.com @palestine@lemmy.ml Fear not! The western nations have strong ethical standards. So strong, in fact, that we call them "Double Standards"
"... the fifth condition for genocide was not met – that is the transfer of children from one group to another. Rather, as the report noted, the genocidal intention of Israel has included the actual targeting of the children of Gaza as a way of ending any future for this community."
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/09/un-genocide-finding-makes-global-obligations-clear/
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No doubt. Life in prison would still be a easy way out imo. I vote for forced labor to reconstruct Palestine, for life.
@Hell_nah_brother
Being made to remedy some of the harm that they've done would be a logical part of punishment.
how did a bullet get into her head from above? looks like an execution to me
Yes, a lot of them deserve much worse
And who's going to put them in there? So far no one has the appetite to do anything to enforce consequences for their actions. All I see is internet complaints and real-life impotence.
Greta Thunberg has bigger ovaries than entire countries, from her act of trying to run the Israeli blockade to deliver food by boat
Not everyone gets what they deserve @BaroqueInMind
That which is rotten tends to collapse of its own accord. Israel stands, only because of support from outside. Precipitating its collapse won't take much.
Greta Thunberg and her ilk do give hope. I wish we didn't need them to put themselves in harm's way. Few of our elected leaders have proved worthy of the title.
@palestine
Nothing less than the Haiti treatment is what they deserve tbh
No doubt about that...
Is it odd to anyone else that the bullet is in perfect condition? Wouldn't the bullet be slightly deformed?
@Jax
That's characteristic of a sniper shot. The shape is that of a rifle round. The projectile loses energy as it travels to the target. The fact that it hasn't penetrated deeply into the soft tissues of a child's head is consistent with it having travelled quite some distance. There's thus little energy to deform the slug.
@palestine
Ah, I wasn't aware of this information. I don't know if that makes it more, less, or equally as horrifying as an execution. Equally, I suppose.
Decolonization and prison abolition aren’t mutually exclusive. Carceral instincts for large populations are especially unhelpful here, as they’re the root of the problem.
Capital punishment it is then.
Practicality doesn't change deserts @HailSeitan
Not everyone gets what they deserve.
If there's a path to lasting peace in the region, then that path begins with dismantling the Zionist ethno-state. The culpable deserve prison. Miko Peled has said that many will choose to live AS EQUALS in Palestine. The incorrigible will need to make other arrangements.
@palestine
Let's stop the genocide, then we can hold Nuremberg trials 2.0 and figure out exactly who deserves to spend the rest of their lives in prison. It's easy to say they all deserve life in prison, and it's very possible that they do, but giving a fair trial is part of what's necessary to be maintained in order to prevent our own descent into acts of atrocity.
There's no way the "free world" will allow the genocide to be stopped anyway. If we're talking about throwing Zionists in jail at all, we're talking about overthrowing multiple major world powers, which is exactly what we need to do.
very true
But again, if we do the work to overthrow the major world powers in order to build a new society, but fail to hold fair trials for the tyrants we stopped and their followers, we're making a very bad first step toward creating a better society than we replaced.
I am not sure if I believe in it, but once I read that in order to overtrough a government, you need an active support of 35% of the population.
Now way in hell we can engage 35% of the population of western world to make such dramatic change.
Who will pay their mortgage, who will take care of their retirement, who will make sure they can go on vacation and how can they live without sport and reality TV?
The nice thing is that when you're mad enough, you worry less about the repercussions of your outrage. I doubt that most of the people fighting in the American Revolution were overly worried about their vacations as they fought for their freedom. Things likely got worse for them at first, but the drive to rebuild the country in the right way probably let them work toward that goal without lamenting too much about their lost security from England's established institutions.
People are indeed more reliant on their bread and circuses now than they were then, and there's also the bigger issue of how we've been pacified by decades of rhetoric stating "violence is always bad," so it will take some work to galvanize people. I do think that anger is continuing to rise, though, and there's no sign of the source of that anger slowing down anytime soon, so I think it will get to a boiling point eventually. My goal is just to encourage the revolution to start sooner rather than later so that the world doesn't fall apart even more before we start fighting to repair it.
Just saying, how come hamas terrorists never get fair trials? IDF kills not just them but everyone around them. And people don't question, even if they are terrorists, they deserved fair trials.
You're right, they did. It's part of why what's going on is considered a genocide, and part of why we need to be better. This is all discussing what should happen after the genocide is stopped, though. It's likely that battles will need to be fought to end this, and trials can't be held for those who die in war.
@Signtist
The value of trials will be less in the punishments meted out than in the lessons we learn. It's part of the healing.
For all the pain and evil, humanity CAN come out of this better than it was.
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