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I mean, those are all reasonable points.

If it was the shooter's grandpa's 'older 30.06 Mauser', then yeah, its quite possible the ammo used wasn't exactly fresh, could be degraded, and that could explain a lower muzzle velocity, and thus smaller wound, than what you would otherwise expect.

Yeah I don't think a 30.06 entering at the point of the neck wound 'would have blown his head clean off', but it does seem like there should be more visible damage... particularly as an exit wound... but, I myself at least, have not seen any footage that shows an exit wound at the back of his neck or head or shoulder.

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For reference:

This is apparently the recovered rifle.

I cannot make out exactly what make or model this thing is.

If it is actually an older mauser, its certainly been uh, renovated over the years... as most military mausers (k98ks) are not in 30.06, they're in 7.92 x 57 mm... i know a lot of folks had those, and did make modifications themselves, but you'd have to rebarrel and rechamber the thing.... and to me, that looks like it could just be a Ruger American or Remington 700 from roughly the 90s, in 270 or 243.

Apparently Mauser sold a bunch of sporterized, civillian versions of the K98 as the M98? Back in the... 60s 70s?

Maybe I am just too young or something?

I can't find much info on that, but apparently those were sold in 30.06, and then this would just be a more modern stock/housing from... the 80s, 90s?

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I don't know if this is the FBI/police/whoever being sloppy with reporting calibers...

Or, to throw out another plausible but uncofirmable 'conspiracy theory'... that could just be a dump gun. That is certainly a thing that happens.

The recently released text logs... could be fabricated. I said it in another commemt but ... Steve Banon and Candace Owens are saying they think the text transcript between Robinson and his... partner? lover? ... they don't believe it, because the writing is not the style, length, vocabulary, what you'd expect from a text message exchange, and it also basically just does the prosecutor's job for them, perfectly, hits and confirms literally every salient detail of 'the story' as it currently looks.

Fucking I dunno, man.

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It also strikes me as odd... how did this gun get to the roof?

Did... he disassemble and reassemble it?

Did he he shove it in his clothes somehow?

Theres a video of apparently the shooter walking toward the school, and he seems to have a limp... but we also have still pictures of him roughly jogging up stairs... with bent legs and knees.

Did he... plant it there days earlier?

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Also also... from what I've seen, the language thats been used to describe the rifle when it was found was that it was 'wrapped up', this is also the language used in some.of the released chat logs, i think.

Thats not wrapped.

Thats in a cardboard box.

... Maybe my autism is making me too picky with imprecise words here?

Again, I dunno.

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And... also, maybe this is just more annoying than 'odd' but uh... as best I can tell, we only have written reports of what was written on the casings, the shells.

We don't actual pictures of them, at least I haven't seen any.

It would probably be a lot easier to confirm the caliber of the weapon... if we just actually could see the casings, especially the uh.. rear or the face with the primer, whatever thats called.

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Anyway... yeah it is also weird that they have not recovered the bullet.

They probably should have found that by now, if the front on trajectory is the case... as you say, seems quite unlikely the bullet would completely obliterate itself... it should be somewhere, basically, either stuck in Charlie, or somewhere near the backdrop behind him...

...and yeah, I would tend to expect a 30.06 to stay mostly intact as at least one main piece, going through a human body at least... unless it like... tried to traverse through both femurs and the pelvis, or something like that.

Yeah it uh... it doesn't go all the way to showing the horrific blood geyser from Kirk's neck, the presemter does a pretty good job of making his points with as little pictured extreme gore as possible...

But it does show some, and he may have simply marked it as adult only himself.

Unfortinately I do not know of a way around that on newpipe...

I would suggest firefox or librewolf + ublock origin, if you do want to watch it... and maybe make a throwaway youtube/gmail account that you don't use for anything else, if google forces you to have an account to view it?

Yes, at the very least, I am confident he actually is a Scout Sniper, given that he is able to present his ideas, with video evidence, and then explain them in a rather straightforward and easily understood manner.

Like, uh, particularly when he describes the bullet essentially following along the jaw bone, under the skin / other tissue, before later exiting from under the skin around the lower left of the neck.

This is a thing that happens with gunshot wounds, that the bullet can 'trace' along more dense bones, do more complex trajectories than just basically move in straight lines ... but this is... generally not immediately obvious or intuitive to a layman.

That he knows of this phenomenon and seems quite familiar with it, is strong evidence, in my view, that... he actually is a Scout Sniper.

Uh, how much experience do you have with exit wounds?

Its actually quite common to estimate an approximate caliber of an exit would based on its diameter.

Like uh, police, all around the country, do this regularly.

You yourself can go elsewhere on youtube and find tens of thousands of videos of people shooting at the same thing with different calibers to show how the exit wounds differ, some of them even go out of their way to construct as close to anatomically accurate to a human, models, as possible, to do this.

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Also, please let me know about your analysis process to determine whether or not a wound is an entrance or an exit wound.

It is quite common that with smaller calibers... you can't even see an emtrance wound without being very close to wound.

This happens all the time, at hospitals, even in autopsies... exit wounds tend to be a lot larger and more apparent, and sometimes it can be difficult for even professional medical personnel to properly locate entrance wounds from smaller calibers, they tend to bleed less profusely.

... No?

I am trying to match up, analyze, make sense of, the details related to the ballistics of the event, the firearms involved, the wounds, etc.

I do not even want to touch anything like a psych profile or potential motive.

I am trying to figure out the physical mechanics of how the assassination happened.

I figure that maybe the largest gun community on lemmy, at least that I see, may have some kind of gun related knowledge to contribute, or use to make their own assessments.

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Further, given that the link I provided is from a guy, who endorses other Republicans as an aside to a detail of his ballistic analysis...

He is likely a Republican or otherwise on the right, and he is proposing that the current story the Republicans are running with... is bullshit, is wrong.