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[–] VladimirLimeMint@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 16 hours ago
[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 19 hours ago

You reap what you sow,

[–] AngeryProle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I know I should feel sorry for the farmers - the epitome of working class indispensables - but the fact that they voted Trump makes me see red so deep it almost turns to black. Of course I know voting blue would have been no improvement of note, but Trump is the ultimate signifier of Fascist cruelty. I know they're rubes, that they were conned by the Republican machine. But I can't look away from the fact that the very reason they have been conned, the reason the Republican party appealed to them in the first place, is that they are the most abominable, abject kind of racist fascist verminous filth possible.

I know I'm wrong, comrades. But I cannot help it. I do not celebrate the takeover of worker-owned land by a mega corporation. I abhor it. But I do celebrate the suffering of the farmers. The destruction of their entire way of life, the losses imposed on them, the destitution and penury they're being cast into. I cherish it, in the same way I cherish the things that were done by the Soviets to Nazi collaborators, because that is what they are. And if I were to say what I think they deserve, what I genuinely and wholeheartedly wish upon them, I'd probably get banned from here.

Here's a question to those comrades who know better than I do. How do I reconcile that? How do I reframe my observation of them and what's happening to them, in order to better sympathize with the plight of a fellow worker?

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Farmers are petit bourgeois, they're also known as kulaks. They are not working class. They own land.

Farm workers are working class.

[–] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 18 hours ago

The way I look at working people supporting and voting for fascists is this: they're struggling in life, just like the rest of us. Cost of living is going up, quality of goods and services is decreasing, community is breaking apart, people are more individualist and alienated than ever, and the leadership class is doing nothing but enriching themselves. They're looking for answers, just like we are. And then a politician or party comes along who speaks to their struggles, who acknowledges their pain. Since that's more than the other party/parties have done, that's the political party that wins that person's loyalty, or at least begrudging support.

Of course we know that these fascist parties won't solve any of the problems the working class faces, but the mainstream parties often don't even talk about the problems working people face every day, and have had power for a long time and only made things worse. And since the left is systematically excluded from the discourse, only one voice critical of the status quo remains, regardless of how cynical and opportunistic and fake.