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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is how I know, 100% no shadow of a doubt, TSLA is being highly illegally manipulated.

All in TSLQ and still waiting, maybe forever.. bottom line is either reality prevails and I make a LOT of money, or shit is rigged so bad we have no future anyway.

[–] Saffire@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

You're really all in on shorting Tesla?

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[–] Sumocat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Is it because rescuers couldn’t open the doors or because the victims were in a death trap designed by a moron?

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dont forget the windows are also laminated, so you can't just shatter them.

Sounds very safe..

[–] Sumocat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Axxys@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Do other unbreakable windows also come on vehicles where people routinely can't figure out how to open the door?

I think it's the combo of the two that's (preventable) problematic.

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[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If a Tesla sets itself on fire, does the FBI still consider that terrorism?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Terrorism is only when you hurt the Führer’s feelings or don’t sufficiently fellate the memory of one of his nazi pals.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

No, but the FCC might cancel it's show.

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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah so that’s why they’re paying Elon billions. Such business acumen. Such fantastic products.

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[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How did these cars got approved in the first place? It boggles me to no end - there are strict safety requirements for seat belts, airbags and doors for cars to be greenlighted for sale to the general consumer

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Some ideas are considered too stupid to legislate against before someone does the stupid thing.

The world continues for a few centuries without them and then suddenly there are warning labels to "not to operate heavy machinery" on bottles of sleeping pills.

Door handles that don't work in an emergency are the engineering equivalent.

It's easy to make a door handle that always works, it takes effort to make a door handle that sometimes works. It's a special kind of stupid.

I can't imagine how bad a Tesla would be without the legislation in place to force their hand and make them safe. This problem slipped through the net.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hate fly-by-wire. I always will. It's just bad.

We used to prank the guy in HS who's parent bought him a BMW by putting a laminated card between his pedal cluster and the contact.

It's trash.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 26 points 1 day ago

Drive by wire - where the accelerator pedal is connected to the throttle electronically - is separate from these electronic doors with hidden and nonintuitive "emergency" interior release handles.

There's nothing wrong with a drive by wire accelerator.

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 day ago

I see your point but more complex systems use fly by wire. The question here is there the mitagations when things go wrong. The shuttle was compleatly fly by wire, apart from the Undercarriage as there was no way to retract if they where accidentally opened in space.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

I think drive by wire is pretty good. When I was learning stick, the car would regularly increase the accelerator to keep it from stalling.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw a Hyundai the other day that has these recessed door handles and I remember the reason Tesla gave for them is that they improve aerodynamics, and therefor 'fuel' efficiency... but I wonder if the weight from the additional motors and such needed for these handles negate any gains seen from improved aerodynamics?

[–] awesomesauce309@midwest.social 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check your fuel economy driving with the windows cracked, and then with a bag of sand in the trunk. I’d bet on the windows being less efficient.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good point, though I would be surprised if well designed handles would really cause that much drag.

I've obviously never tasted this in a wind tunnel or anything, I just don't think the mileage gained would balance out the lives lost.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

I think i remember reading the handles gave something like 0.5%-1% extra range, but it's been a long time since I looked into it.

Back then when they started doing it, eeking out every single % was pretty important. I'd say its less important now as things have gotten more efficient and batteries have gotten better.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do electronically locked doors fail open or something? How is this different from a locked door? I would guess that breaking the windows is normal for first responders.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're not electronically locked; they're electronically actuated. When you use the "handle", it basically sends a request to the latch motor to Pretty Please open.

There's apparently a manual emergency release like... in the door panel on some of the models.

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That sounds more like a problem for occupants trying to get out, rather than emergency crews getting in.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's both. The emergency handle is only on the inside and even without the car being smashed can be hard to find, and it doesn't help anyone OUTSIDE the car to open the door either. I say "can be" because every car is fucking different with their shitty manufacturing process.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The front emergency handle is easy to find and most people will use it if you don't tell them not to. It's the rear seat one that's hard to find, or non existent on older models.

Locked doors don't help anyone on the outside either even if they're manual.

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