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[–] PixelProf@lemmy.ca 44 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I 100% agree for the meme, but just warning that this isn't really a strong argument. I'm going to straw man here, but: "I'm against the Protect the Children Act", "You're literally saying you're against protecting children." "No, I just disagree that the Act is actually about protecting children and is more about government surveillance and corporate control." In their heads, they've already prepared the argument.

Basically, by them seeing it as a unified organization that stands for more than just being opposed to fascism, they see it as a crafted doublethink instead of realizing they are the victims of a different doublethink, to butcher the use of the term. It's hard to cut through that.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Most people know better. It's completely bad faith arguing.

Being against the Patriot Act does not mean you're not a patriot. Being against Black Lives Matter does not mean you think black lives don't matter. Same can be said about Antifa's actions; plenty of reasons to oppose them that do not involve supporting facism.

Also, there's the common fallacy of composition / division. Being against the Civil Rights Act doesn't mean you support segregation. Being against the Big Beautiful Bill does not mean you're against child tax credits.

College educated people know better, but still leverage dishonesty for political points. It's tiring.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Being against Black Lives Matter does not mean you think black lives don't matter.

Are you sure about that?

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why would you be for using the death of a young kid for personal gain? That would be one reason to be against the organisation, while not being against equal rights and treatment for black people.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's a difference between the movement and the organization going by the same name.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

No one specified which it was though, did they? And in any case, it was an example. You present the world as black and white, even though thats never been the case. Like Churchill, big hero against the nazis. But if you were Indian, he saw you the same way Hitler saw Jewish people. Which is a big yikes.

This is the reality of human beings. We are all complicated as fuck.

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[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 days ago

Extremely blessed Lemmy moment of opening the comments to find the hot one is what you opened the comments to post yourself

[–] Octagon9561@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

They know

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I agree with the message but the argument is weak, plus drawing Trump with a neck?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago

I also agree with it, he is fascist. But yeah, the right don't view "Antifa" as encompassing everyone who is against fascism. Just like how, say, banning Mothers Against Drunk Driving would not ban mothers against against drunk driving. Of course, one of those is an actual legal entity, the other is a vague movement.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

US constitution and army are anti-fascist by definition.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

what if your anti-anti-anti-antifascist.

[–] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago

Muskmode enabled!

[–] canajac@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Mussolini in desguise.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Trump fanatics and MAGA dipshits won't see the correlation.

They think that antifa is some group of people doing things. Organized and with a plan or something. It's not.

Antifa is about as organized as anonymous. Which is to say, it's not organized at all. There's only an anonymous/antifa action taken when enough of the people that believe in either concept rally around a single thought. When it hits critical mass, shit happens. Until then, it's just a scattered group of randoms that don't know eachother, and happen to share a specific viewpoint.

Neither "group" has meetings or structure, or a plan for anything.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Here is my post showing ANTIFA members.

https://vger.to/lemmy.ca/comment/19049023

[–] josefo@leminal.space 1 points 6 days ago

Anti-anticommunist are communists?

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