If those kids could read, they'd be very upset
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I 100% agree for the meme, but just warning that this isn't really a strong argument. I'm going to straw man here, but: "I'm against the Protect the Children Act", "You're literally saying you're against protecting children." "No, I just disagree that the Act is actually about protecting children and is more about government surveillance and corporate control." In their heads, they've already prepared the argument.
Basically, by them seeing it as a unified organization that stands for more than just being opposed to fascism, they see it as a crafted doublethink instead of realizing they are the victims of a different doublethink, to butcher the use of the term. It's hard to cut through that.
Most people know better. It's completely bad faith arguing.
Being against the Patriot Act does not mean you're not a patriot. Being against Black Lives Matter does not mean you think black lives don't matter. Same can be said about Antifa's actions; plenty of reasons to oppose them that do not involve supporting facism.
Also, there's the common fallacy of composition / division. Being against the Civil Rights Act doesn't mean you support segregation. Being against the Big Beautiful Bill does not mean you're against child tax credits.
College educated people know better, but still leverage dishonesty for political points. It's tiring.
Being against Black Lives Matter does not mean you think black lives don't matter.
Are you sure about that?
Why would you be for using the death of a young kid for personal gain? That would be one reason to be against the organisation, while not being against equal rights and treatment for black people.
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Extremely blessed Lemmy moment of opening the comments to find the hot one is what you opened the comments to post yourself
It's amazing, the amount of bullshit people say in order to deny the obvious.
Anti antifascist = fascist
I mean, that's like how Elon wants to call his new party, the America party. And most likely people who are registered to vote for the America party would be called Americans. And so then if you're against them what, you're against America? You hate all Americans?
Like yes, in reality the people who are against antifa are fascists. But that can't be determined from the name of it! The government has played this trick countless times, naming laws and bills the opposite of what they're really supposed to do. Like someone introduces a bill called the " children's online privacy protection" act, but really it's just some mass surveillance garbage and has nothing to do with protecting children. And then if you oppose the act, and someone says " oh so you don't want children to be safe online?!1!1!1" like, we all know that's a really horrible argument. Things can be named whatever they want to be named even if it has no underlying relation to the reality of what they stand for.
Again, at this particular moment in this particular situation, antifa still does really stand against fascism, and the government that hates antifa really does stand for fascism. So we happened to get lucky that the names line up with the reality underneath in this case, but that doesn't mean that that's a good line of reasoning in general.
Not even like it's a hard algebraic equation right? - either that person is lying or really need to save those braincells for breathing
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Its all about branding
I thought it was all about Brandon.
deepl translation:
t's annoying to explain
Because it's actually quite simple
So listen carefully
Because I'll only say it once
If you're anti-antifa
you're fa
You can say what you want
But that's the truth
And I wish
I didn't have to constantly be against something
But how is that supposed to work with all these goddamn
Nazi pigs?
And if it annoys you to hear that, it's not my problem
It's your problem
It's not hard to understand
I could take care of beautiful things
We could take care of beautiful things
Instead, we have to take care of this scum
If you're anti-antifa
you're fa
You can say what you want
But that's the truth
And I wish
I didn't have to be against something all the time
But how is that supposed to work
With all the goddamn Nazi pigs?
How?
How?
How is that supposed to work, please?
Great poem, thank you.
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They know
I went to a parade earlier that was celebrating anti fascism. They even had some spitfires flying over.
I agree with the message but the argument is weak, plus drawing Trump with a neck?
I also agree with it, he is fascist. But yeah, the right don't view "Antifa" as encompassing everyone who is against fascism. Just like how, say, banning Mothers Against Drunk Driving would not ban mothers against against drunk driving. Of course, one of those is an actual legal entity, the other is a vague movement.
Well obviously. The fact that antifa would expose fascism merely by donning the name is the point of the whole damn thing.
what if your anti-anti-anti-antifascist.
Muskmode enabled!
Trump fanatics and MAGA dipshits won't see the correlation.
They think that antifa is some group of people doing things. Organized and with a plan or something. It's not.
Antifa is about as organized as anonymous. Which is to say, it's not organized at all. There's only an anonymous/antifa action taken when enough of the people that believe in either concept rally around a single thought. When it hits critical mass, shit happens. Until then, it's just a scattered group of randoms that don't know eachother, and happen to share a specific viewpoint.
Neither "group" has meetings or structure, or a plan for anything.
US constitution and army are anti-fascist by definition.
Mussolini in desguise. 
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