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The guy had a left hand. If that's not enough evidence, I don't know what you need.
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What leftwing groups or even prominent individuals in the US with any actual following advocate for political assassinations and direct violence against rightwing people they don't like? Where are all the lefties supposedly making calls to violence and terrorism?
The media and even a lot of people here will flip a shit about someone like Hasan Piker being so radical and yet if he even remotely said something like "maybe we should just start shooting rightwing media figures" an overwhelmingly massive chunk of Hasan's audience would tell him to fuck off and cause an uproar because that clashes with the basic foundational ideologies of leftwing movements in the US, they are about obtaining a state of freedom for all, the idea of targeted violence has little salience to a US leftist as we are well aware that 1. senseless violence doesn't change anything, it will not lead to freedom for all, it just accelerates the bad things. 2. the ruling class in the US will jump at any chance to radically villainize the left, the bulk of the country will blindly follow along in this, thus random senseless acts of violence aren't just bad because they are evil they actually existentially threaten leftwing movements in the US as a whole, leftists in the US are WELL aware of this...
The difference between the left vs the center and rightwing of the US is that the left actually builds coalitions on shared values, most leftists in the US these days are strongly influenced by figures like Bernie Sanders who has been mainly focused on broad social programs to improve people's quality of life like healthcare and for fighting wealth inequality. How the hell would advocating for shooting someone like Charlie Kirk make affordable healthcare more likely in the US? How would it help get the public focused on Citizen's United and getting money out of politics? Leftists in the US are about ideas and policies, this isn't just an aesthetic, if you enter US leftist circles and start advocating for targeted violence as retribution, preemptive violence or really for anything for any reason at all the leftists around you are going to turn on you for being a hateful bastard trying to distract from the actual issues at hand.
If there is one thing that ties virtually all leftists in the US together it is that we fucking LOVE to argue about things.... so much so that sometimes we can never agree on stuff because we want to argue the little details on and on forever. It is not lost on us that the very first thing that happens when you commit violence against others is that they stop listening to the wisdom of your arguments and ideas.
If he had actually gotten connected with any decent left wing group - instead of just being stuck mostly alone in Utah to stew with his (totally understandable) anger at the things Kirk was saying - that group probably would have told him something like "bro, chill, shooting people is only going to make shit worse for everybody we care about, now wash these dishes instead so we can open the soup kitchen on time tonight, we got hungry neighbors"
Utah gov about to have another press conference, ‘he was so deep into the leftosphere that we haven’t even been able to uncover his presence yet. Mark my words, we are working hard to find the connection.’
"As yet, the Ultimate Evil remains largely unmanifest, and its powers and exact intentions are still a bit obscure since it lurks just outside the range of even the most sensitive, long-range detectors which we feel gives conclusive evidence as to The Ultimate Evil's nefarious intent." - Spathi
Bro he has 2 discord messages in like 4 years and they read like 'trump might get impeached' and 'it looks like trump is in the lead' on election night.
Is there some line where it's acceptable to start murdering oppressors? No one would argue against jews murdering their nazi oppressers, but bisexual murdering homophobic stochastic terrorists? How much must one endure before being permitted to act in favor of their own survival?
Looking at how the palestinians have been treated and our reaction to their resistance shows people need to endure their complete extermination before the oppressors accept acts of defense.
The right knows full well that they openly cheer on terror acts from the right but they pretend to value the same ethics. They don't and we should not give them the benefit of the doubt. We should stand to what we say. It is time to take back the narrative.
Charlie Kirks killing was by no means a tradgedy and i will refuse to be sorry for such a dick reaping the hate he sowed while innocents are getting bombed with the very weapons we supply.
So no evidence of collusion with left wing groups and no word about anything on right wing groups.
Not that I trust any of these law enforcement to do any actual due diligence in their investigation of this guys ties to racist Republican ideology even though his whole family is MAGA.
He was a groyper. They have been threatening violence against Kirk, Shapiro and Trump since 2019. They know this, which is why Shapiro is in hiding shitting his pants since Kirk got shot.
Trump: "If you can't find evidence, invent some. Here, have a sharpie."
And if you won't use the sharpie, you're fired and I'll find someone who will
I'm sure the guy who modified a hurricane path map with a sharpie wouldn't cook up the result he wants on this.
don't worry, They don't need actual factual ties.. they've already made plentiful amounts of false information that fox news and other conservative outlets have run with.
cause its not about truth and facts, its about the narrative.. and the narrative has to be about how hateful right wing extremists are the poor victims of the big mean liberal agenda.
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