One day, when it’s safe, when there’s no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it’s too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.
— Omar El Akkad
this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2025
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Starmer and his team unfortunately have a history of completely ignoring anything that comes out of conference.
The annual conference has voted for voting reforms a number of times now for example but the leadership just ignores them.
And it's going to fuck them over come the next election.
And not just them, but the entire country! ✨
And Keir will ignore it. JC respected democratic motions, Keir doesn't give 2 shits.
His General Secretary appointment has been deeming many Palestine motions out of order, for years.
Even if you're favourable to Keir, he's not a democrat and had largely ignore conference motions and tried to block ones he does not like.
Why would he ignore it?
He already banned weapons exports to Israel, condemned Israel for war crimes, ramped up aid to Palestine, sanctioned a bunch of Israeli MPs, committed to arresting Netanyahu if he ever comes to the UK, refused to join the US/Israel coalition in Iran, and recognised Palestine.
Why would he suddenly become pro-Israel?
All meaningless things for show, israel could start gassing gazans and he would do nothing more than performative acts like he has already done.
Why is banning weapons exports and recognising Palestinian statehood meaningless? That sounds important to me.
What is an example of something that would be meaningful? If banning exports is not meaningful it sounds like nothing will satisfy you short of invading Israel.
I remember when banning weapons exports to Israel was being described as the most important thing the UK could do. Now we've done it and it's been relegated to 'meaningless'. And if recognising Palestine statehood is meaningless, why have Palestinians been campaigning for just that for decades? Clearly they don't see it as meaningless!
The UK has not recognized Palestinian statehood except on paper. It blackmails the PA into caving to Israeli demands in exchange for recognizing no clear territories.
Also the UK still supplies weapons to Israel. Which is mentioned in the article.
This explains how fraudulent it all is https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/recognition-palestine-repeat-wests-oslo-peace-fraud
I remember having a conversation with someone here, back before the GE, where I said that it wouldn't really matter how much Starmer shifted to a pro-Palestinian position, people would never think it was enough and in fact wouldn't even acknowledge that it had happened. Other person was swearing blind that I was wrong. And, I mean, not to gloat or anything, but...
He has done nothing of substance. Your misundetstanding here is based on thinking that anything he did was for more than show.
Why is Israel in quote marks throughout? Seems to come from the source, so I'm not blaming you, OP, but it strikes me as a bit off.
It's a Jordanian news site. Jordan does not recognize Israel as a country. Which is based.
'Israel' is in quotes because OP doesn't recognize the entity.
I think its more engagement bait