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CLP (Constituency Labour Party) nominations are a largely meaningless ritual but, absent polling, they do suggest who's likely to win because they show who the (most engaged) members are backing.

At time of writing, Lucy Powell is on 27 and Bridget Phillipson on 14, which suggests that the conventional wisdom (also my view) is correct and that Powell will cruise to victory.

Fun(?) fact, her surname is pronounced 'pole'.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

Much as I think that the rest of the Labour MPs and staff acted like malicious fools while Corbyn was leader, I think even his biggest fans would now have to agree that he may have been part of the problem.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Ha, can't blame my version, more likely my faulty memory!

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the leadership have a pretty tight grip on who gets to run. If they suspect Burnham's coming back to Westminster in order to take down the leadership, they can just block him from the candidacy. That comes with its own risks, but it's obviously the best way to protect the leadership, so that's what they'll do!

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also he’s relatively unknown outside of Manchester. So he’d have to have a big PR drive.

Within the party, he's very well-known, and running for PM is its own PR drive! But yeah, you are correct that the obstacles are considerable.

 

I think they should move before the May elections if they're serious. They shouldn't wait till a terrible defeat forces them to act, especially if - as looks likely - Reform will be the beneficiaries of that defeat.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

I think it's safe to say he wasn't like, 'I would marry her because I respect her like Ed Miliband respects a van'.

 

This seems not good.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

“Oh, what’s the point of keeping billionaires out of social media?”

I don't understand who or what attitude this is supposed to be paraphrasing.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I’ve long thought twitter, by its nature, was corrosive to civil society, but unfortunately that won’t be fixed by replacing it with another short-form rage-machine.

You're probably right, unfortunately!

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I called them the 'looney left' in the exact same way that I called them the 'real/actual' left. Since it would make no sense for me, a left wing person, to describe some other group of people as the real left, that's a clue that I wasn't being serious, as was the overall tone of the sentence. In fact, you've been far ruder about the party's left (however defined) than I have, in that the implication of what you're saying must necessarily be that they're all fools and dupes for having dedicated their lives to the party!

You're under no compulsion to find me amusing, of course, but if you don't like the way I post on here, I suggest not replying at all rather than bothering me with rude and patronising misinterpretations of my comments.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think the rudeness and the wrongness may be inextricable. Either way, I'm not interested in discussing anything with people who can't manage to be civil about it.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don't patronise me.

 

FINAL EDIT: It's now officially a two-horse race, as Powell cleared the 80 vote threshold and Ribeiro-Addy didn't. More MPs are backing Phillipson but I reckon Powell will win over the membership.

Well, I'll be voting for Powell, assuming she gets the last three nominations she needs. The leadership badly need someone in the room who's willing to tell them where they're going wrong. As Phillipson is already in the room and one of the people going wrong, she's obviously the wrong choice.

I don't think we can do polls on Lemmy, but I'd be interested to hear who people here want to win, especially those of you with a vote!

EDIT: Thornberry has officially withdrawn, per the Guardian, so the MPs who nominated her are now free to nominate someone else. I'm fairly sure some of those 13 will nominate Powell, if only so they can actually have an election.

EDIT 2: Paula Barker has also dropped out, leaving only Bell Ribeiro-Addy from the party's (far/hard/looney/socialist/real/actual/Trotskyite/Bennite/Corbynite [please delete according to ideological preference]) left. But she won't get the nominations, so on practice it remains a two-horse race.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

Oh, well. Do let us know when you conclude something.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'm wary of anything Lansman thinks is a good idea. Yet, as John McTernan argued, Momentum did have some genuine intellectual vibrancy - at least at the start. Question is whether its decay into typical boring shouty lefty group was inevitable or not.

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Some highlights:

I want you to compare where we are now, with when I first addressed you as general secretary in Liverpool two years ago.

The Tories anti-strike legislation...now gone...Our right to strike...protected.

Hundreds of disputes across the public and private sector... won

A public inquiry into the scandal at Orgreave... secured.

And the Employment Rights Bill – about to be given Royal assent in a matter of weeks.

Not by chance.

Not by accident.

But because we fought for it.

We campaigned for it.

And we will ensure it’s delivered, in full.

Congress – we are winning for workers.

And that’s not all.

It was unions, and a Labour government working together, that saw Parliament recalled and thousands of jobs saved in British Steel.

It is thanks to our campaigning over decades that Britain’s railways are coming back where they belong – in public ownership.

And it is thanks to us and our calls for taxes on the wealthiest, that at the Budget the Chancellor abolished tax breaks for non-doms, and introduced VAT on private school fees.

Increased taxes on private jets.

And even clamped down on well-known TV personalities buying farms to avoid taxes.

Taxes that are vital for our NHS, and our schools.

Again.

Not by chance.

Not by accident.

But because we fought for it, we campaigned for it , and Congress, we won it.

It is right to celebrate our success, because our movement is needed now more than ever.

 

I can't believe it's called Mainstream. So lame. Anyway, website's here if you want more info:

https://www.mainstreamlabour.org/

You can become a member but it ain't free.

The article suggests it's going to organise for the Deputy Leadership election. If so it's a bit late given nominations close on Thursday. Anyway, I for one welcome our soft gooey lefty overlords.

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