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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 49 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

He ain't wrong. But there's still a big question of what he's going to do about it.

Will the Chicago PD defend its citizens from this unlawful armed incursion? Will the Illinois National Guard step up? Can the citizens defend themselves from this authoritarian violence? And will Pritzker lead his people in opposition to a military occupation of their largest city?

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I think he should dispatch Illinois National Guard units for each Federal officer in his city, 1:1. Their only orders should be to trail ICE and other officers with body cams. Do not do anything else. Stream it online, on real time. Make sure people know what is happening.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 19 points 21 hours ago

There’s a section in the IL constitution that creates a “state guard,” which can be activated by the governor, separate from National Guard.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

The CPD has a reputation of authoritarian violence

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 hour ago

And like other police forces going after minorities

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 22 hours ago

This is not an "Immigration Crackdown," this is an invasion of your own peaceful city. Patrolling tourist areas is only trying to hurt the city.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 12 points 20 hours ago
[–] foggy@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Didnt the supreme court literally green light this?

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No. They said he can activate the NG but they can only protect federal buildings which is why everywhere they're deployed they're just circling around a handful of buildings.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Paywall, if you want to support the times provide the relevant text and we can talk about it though what is available before the block specifically says it isn't final quick means its lawfulness is indeterminate.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It means the racial profiling got a rubber stamp, and “we will figure out the legality later.”

No one is saying they determined it was legal. They simply hand waved the issue in the short term.

Think of it like this. If cops started arresting people for saying “I don’t like cheese” and the cases got to the Supreme Court, and they said “nah it’s all good keep doing it until we hear arguments on it” that would be akin to what happened here.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Didnt the supreme court literally green light this

That answer is no.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, did they say “no you have to stop” or did they say “yeah you can keep going” because only one of those happened.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry that just isn't how the legal system in this country works.

Even if the court said "come on stop it guys" it would have no legal force until it's clearly established which is generally after finality ie. all appeals are exhausted or expired.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, what? Are you confused as to how things get to the Supreme Court? It’s here because of an appeal.

Lower courts said “yeah no, this shit is illegal, stop it” and the Supreme Court said “well we are going to look at this, so you can keep doing things the way you were until we do.”

The Supreme Court could also have said “well, we are going to look at this, so you have to stop until we do.”

Using your logic, they shouldn’t be doing it because a lower court ruled it illegal.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

That is not the only way it gets to the supreme court, it's a way. And yes, that would mean they are not exhausted and thusly it isn't settled case law for most purposes.

Cool, and they could have issued an injunction, that isn't typically a supreme court deal. The supreme court intentionally stays out of minor procedurals especially when they aren't asked to.

That's an injunction bud.

No, they shouldn't be doing it because it's immoral. No one was granted an injunction. Why are you upset about the supreme court not doing something it isn't expected or intended to do.

[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

well a court did but IDK if I'd call them supreme, they human like us, hint hint nudge nudge

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

In their opinion, the best of all reasons to harrass someone.

Isn't that like half their job–the other half being kidnappings terrorism?

[–] blave@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] CreativeShotgun@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Eh, you try being brown and see how you feel about this being labeled as a simple "distraction"

[–] forrcaho@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The ICE campaign of terror is not a distraction, in the sense that it is meant to draw attention away from something else. It is a primary ambition -- perhaps the primary ambition -- of this administration. Remember those "MASS DEPORTATION NOW" signs people were holding up at the Republican National Convention?

It is also unsympathetic to those being abused by ICE to call their plight a "distraction". No! It's something we need to pay attention to and put a stop to!