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Can't believe I had to have this conversation again today, with someone who should know better. You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Edit to add more context:

Rice burner is a pejorative term originally applied to Japanese motorcycles and which later expanded to include Japanese cars or any East Asian-made vehicles. Variations include rice rocket, referring most often to Japanese superbikes, rice machine, rice grinder or simply ricer.

Riced out is an adjective denigrating a badly customized sports car, "usually with oversized or ill-matched exterior appointments". Rice boy is a US derogatory term for the driver or builder of an import-car hot rod. The terms may disparage cars or car enthusiasts as imposters or wanna-bes, using cheap modifications to imitate the appearance of high performance.

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

Source.

I'd like you to read this from a guy who's father is from the Philippines. His mother is American. Then have a good think about it. Actually think about it for a day or so.

Palting: (reenlist forums)

*When you call a car a "ricer", you are saying that it is not a nice car, possibly even an atrocious car. I don't believe you will ever hear a statement like "Look at that gorgeous ricer!!" So, in response to the question, is it derogatory, the answer is that the term ricer is most definitely derogatory.

The question then becomes, is it racist? The term "ricer" was coined to denote the cars that were made in Japan or Korea that were subsequently modded and are obnoxious to the observer. You can ask 100 people what car brand comes to mind when you say "ricer" and 100 of them will come up with an Asian brand. Ask those same 100 people what country or race comes to mind, and 100 will say some Asian country. We can safely say that "ricer" would indicate the Asian culture where rice is the staple food. We can define a term racist if the term pertaining to a race or a race's cultural character is considered derogatory. Therefore, the term ricer is most definitely racist.

If, lets say, one of the African nations built a car, would you call it a "******"? The term "ricer" most definitely belongs in the same category as ******, slant-eyes, gook and what have you. Shame on anyone who uses the term and who does not realise it is very definitely racist.

My mother is from the USA, my father is from the Philippines. I was born and raised in the Philippines. I am a Filipino. I am not a "halfer", nor "mestizo", nor anything other than a Filipino national who chose to reside in the US as an American citizen.*

Source.

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[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

everyone will feel offended at anything you say.

nice example of a philippino person being offended by it.

if i told my philippino friend abt it he'd dismiss these concerns.

different strokes for different folks.

bottom line: playing word police is problematic in itself.

just don't be a dick and you're good.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] SunSunFuego@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

a lot of everyday words or even slang can be described as offensive or racist if the listener deems them this way - or because the history of certain words is rooted in racism.

you wanna tell the whole linux community that "ricing" is an offensive term?

you wanna tell marxists that quote "it's either socialism or barbarism" that the term "barbarian" is a racist term used by romans?

you wanna tell polish boomers that they shouldn't say "a jew hung himself" to refer to windy weather?

a miniscule amount of people think about the racial or xenophobic implications because certain things are too ingrained in society.

keep the spirit up, you go guys, but these things won't go away for the next few generations.

stuff like this just fuels infighting with no real goal. - fighting actual racism and systemic racism. getting hung up on unimportant details will just alienate people who'd be sympathetic to the cause.

we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

we also likely live in different societies so we have different approaches to how racism is perceived. this discourse reeks of being american.

jfc not everyone on the internet is american.

[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't just un-racist a word because it makes you feel bad man.

Well then, I hope you never use the word slave, slavery, or any of the derived words, seeing as etymologically they're a pejorative for Slavic people. And that's just the first example that comes to mind.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] taygaloocat@leminal.space 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Such nitpicking for such an insignificant problem. Shit like this is why the Left fell so hard and now we're stuck with Drumpf

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 hours ago

Not everyone on the internet is American 💜

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Calling the term "rice" in connection to focusing on aesthetics over preformance racist just seems insane to me. There are objectly racist uses of the word rice to harm Asians. However when 99% of the community never even correlated this useage of the word to anything derogatory twords asians, and even use it positivly when someone genuinely likes JDM or overbuilt cars, the word stops being racist

You cant claim racist undertones to a word when people don't corelate that word whatsoever to anything derogatory twords Asians. The modern use of the word spoke about a car that looked like a racecar but didn't have the preformance of one, making it "ugly", and then branched to become a positive term when talking about putting lots of efforts into the aesthetic of something

The evolution of the word is not a moral failing but a redirection from a derogatory borderline slur to a word that captures the idea of "looks over preformance"

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The term is often defined as offensive or racist stereotyping. In some cases, users of the term assert that it is not offensive or racist, or else treat the term as a humorous, mild insult rather than a racial slur.

*Taps the sign.*

[–] lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Reading through your responses it seems you really dont give a fuck about actually having discussion. Your view is right and everyone else is wrong, because of the simple fact "racism bad"

Theres no reason to ever redirect a racist phrase into something positive and completely seperated from its racist past, dispite the community at large already doing that. Words cannot change or evolve, and any word with even an inkling of negativity should be banned from ever being spoken (/s). I specifically called out that rice can be used in a racist and as a borderline slur, but that the modern useage of the word is painfully obviously removed from that connotation: considering the massive amount of people under this post also claiming they have never used, or even knew, the word could at all relate to degrading asians.

Oh and since you've responded often rejecting opinions just because "its a white person claiming its not racist" let me ask you, how many Japanese people (since the old meaning of the word was specifically targeted at the japanese) do you know take genuine offence to the word? Because funnily enough my Japanese friends in the car scene love calling things riced out

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

BTW, have you actually asked any of your friends about the term? Because plenty of minorities will just play along with slurs because calling it out is hard and results in *gestures broadly* this sort of response. Just like trans people often won't call out when they're deadnamed or misgendered. Or autistic people not calling out when the r-slur is used. It's kind of pretty common.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

There is literally a person in this thread who says they're uncomfortable about the usage?

[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like a lot of people here need to stop taking this information so damn personally. You didn't know, great, that means you're not racist. Now you do know. So just... Stop? That's it. OP wasn't even a dick about it.

Personally, I'm grateful when I get a heads up that certain terms are racist, so thank you OP!

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] DaedalousIlios@pawb.social 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I actually extended your PSA over to my Misskey. A great discussion ensued followed by this term and one other being added to the slur list. :P

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 23 hours ago

Hell yeah, nice work! 💜

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

My ex was Korean and she used the term rice rocket when I mentioned I wanted a Mitsubishi Lancer because it's a cool fast Japanese car. Asians aren't a monolith that all think one term or another should be verboten. Assuming all Asians think the term "rice" is a slur is just arrogance.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

That's our word

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I got called out for saying this once, and went back and looked it up. I had meant it sort of neutrally, and there are a lot of neutral uses of it out there, but there are probably just as many clearly negative/racist uses of it, and practically no positive uses.

There's a way of being a racist that is like crypto-racism. It appears neutral, but actually moves the ball forward for racists. And my experiences with many many different kinds of people, is that the people who are best at this are like hardcore Nazis.

I personally am not someone who thinks that advocacy and allyship begins and ends with saying or refusing to say certain words. I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren't allowed to say certain words anymore. But also being conscientious of our speech is a part of it, whether we like it or not. Ultimately it isnt some great loss of my freedom if I decide to call a Yamaha motorcycle a "Yamaha" instead of a "ricer". I have a large enough vocabulary that I can spare a word or two.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

I think there are a lot of really serious problems with the current liberal establishment posture towards race, where you continue to be heavily and unfairly exploited, and now imprisoned or deported because of skin color, but politically we will make sure people aren't allowed to say certain words anymore.

You're absolutely right, you can't begin and end your advocacy with no longer using certain words. That's why I'm out protesting, where I can, for causes like Palestinian recognition, Israeli sanctions and Changing the Date.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Glad to hear! What is Changing the date? I'm also active politically, too few people are though

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

In Australia, we celebrate a national holiday on the anniversary of Captain Cook's invasion of Australia. Indigenous Australian's therefore don't feel like they can celebrate, and alongside allies, advocate for changing the date. Protests on that day also advocate for truth-telling as well as other actions discussed in the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

Absolutely wild to me. From my experience, Toyotas are way more reliable than Fords.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements. That's what rice has always meant to me, and as far as I know everyone around me. You can rice an American car and you can rice a German car just as much as you can rice a Japanese car.

I think this kind of linguistic prescriptivism is one of many things wrong with modern anti-racism movements. It's such a non-issue.

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[–] Vytle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is blatantly incorrect? Rice is an acronym for "Racing inspired cosmetic enhancements"?

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's a backronym that was created to try and coverup its racist origin.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Oh, I had only ever heard this term in the context of Linux desktop customization. Like in the context of superfluous over the top additions that look pretty but ultimately do not add anything to a system and may to some extent degrade performance.

I dont know why I never connected it with the car scene or with racist attitudes. I'm ashamed to say I think I've used the term myself once or twice. Thanks for sharing an explanation of the history of this evidently very racist term, I imagine there are others like myself who have failed to make that connection.

Idk why its so hard to just say "setup". I'm not sure that a use case this particular warrants its own terminology.

I'm ashamed to say I think I've used the term myself once or twice.

It's okay, you didn't know then, so didn't use it intentionally to cause harm.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you. I'm Asian and it is honestly a bit maddening when I get white-splained as to why the term isn't racist towards Asians.

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