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[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

at first i thought this was an onion article and stephen got melted by the fire

So... has the fire been officially deemed arson? Last I saw they were still investigating the cause. The one calling it arson in the article is a congressman, not the fire department.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

"Federal arsonist very angry on camera as townsfolk snicker out of sight, enjoying his humiliation but fearing he'll spy them and burn their houses down next".

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He melted down? Must have been too close to the fire.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Nah he got splashed with holy water on accident

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Wait, this isn't like when the Nazis opened the Ark at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Oh well.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I thought the radical left was the only one doing political violence?????

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 3 days ago

So who is this fits news and owner? Quick search yield

https://ballotpedia.org/Will_Folks

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it doesn't matter what side "did it" (dumb framing) because this is the exact kind of response i can directly support. as a leftist, i am using this opportunity to say your outrage at those in power is justified regardless of your placement on the political spectrum. they are working for none of us while oppressing all of us. if you are contributing labor you are being exploited by an oligarchy. you are being killed for profit and imperialism.

this is the anger of the people. this is what happens when our voices are rejected and painted as unreasonable. you cannot cage an animal and expect no thrashing.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok but most acts of political violence and terrorism are done by rwnj

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i know, but we need to capture the anger of the people that is motivating these rwnjs. because it is us vs them, but these folks are being lied to about who "them" is. this could be an opportunity to correct that, to point at this and say "the reasoning is flawed, the conclusion is flawed, but the anger was already there because there was something real to be angry about." they are having their anger exploited. they feel rage, but they're being told it's immigrants! where's the rage come from? the reality that they are being fucked over by the system.

we can use this to speak to them.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think first we'll need to calm the anger before anyone can listen, let alone think through the evidence. Otherwise when anything pops off, we're going to end up with the wrong people in positions of power.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you are not going to calm anything down. the anger is righteous. it is merely misdirected and manipulated by fascists. we can’t calm the anger but we can make it work for the people instead.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What I'm saying is people don't think straight when they're angry. Yes the anger is righteous, but if you haven't noticed, they're blaming outside entities, not their own.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

what do you think i mean when i say to use their anger? i am maintaining we redirect the outrage. its like you ignored everything i said about having it work for us as opposed to against us.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am saying people are blinded by anger and dig in if you try to change their minds. They have to calm enough to read and critically evaluate information properly. They even reject their own Western MSM to dig in.

A quick flame or slow burn? Are you putting food on the grill while flames shoot out or when the coal looks lifeless but is red-hot inside?

No I'm not ignoring anything. Are you missing anything?

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it isn't about trying to change their minds, it's about directing their anger to the correct source. it isn't holding up a mirror and going "you are to blame." there would be empathy with the common laborer exploited by these fascists they vote for. you can appeal to people without challenging them directly.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it isn't about trying to change their minds, it's about directing their anger to the correct source.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

it isn't holding up a mirror and going "you are to blame."

This is not what I'm saying.

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you underestimate the average person’s adherence to strict ideology. a lot of people have a mixture of beliefs without realizing it and tend to focus on the more extreme forms the Right has shoveled them. it is definitely possible to unify people through initial common ground that pacifies rather than agitates, like higher wages: practically every LABORER is in favor of that.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure where the disconnect is. There is an old saying that comes to mind: act in haste, repent at leisure.

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