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[–] medem@lemmy.wtf 4 points 7 hours ago

Reminds me of the most traumatic conversation I've had in a good while, which included the following (abridged) exchange:

Me: You do know that, if payment for your yearly M365 fees fails for some reason, or you simply don't want or don't care about it anymore and let your subscription expire, you will get read-only access to your OWN data, which is stored in YOUR computer, and unable to create new files in Office ?

Him: So what? If you have a newspaper subscription and you stop paying, you won't get the newspaper anymore, that's just how subscriptions work.

...

I am not talking about a 10 year old. This is a 50+ year old dude who does entrepreneur's consulting for a living.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

So in other words, just switch to Linux already

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Claim: you don't need a Microsoft account to run windows. Here's how.

Step 1: set up a Microsoft account.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 1 points 17 hours ago

Finally, some sense.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Just make a burner first-born for the initial sacrifice pledge & then make other local children as you please.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing you need a Microsoft account for is to play Minecraft. And use other Microsoft products and services that Microsoft keeps pushing their terrible account system on.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You can actually download and play minecraft without a Microsoft account in multiple ways.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

You can. It is in fact possible to play Minecraft without any code from Microsoft, as there are alternative implementations for both the frontend and the server. You can't play on regular servers that way, though.

[–] fleet@lemmy.ca 10 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

With Windows 10 eol coming up, I installed Bazzite on my buddies computer. All he uses it for is games, browser and editing the occasional document. The transition has been really seemless so far, and he is not technologically adept in the slightest.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Linux is really mature nowadays. I spent like five hours getting my NIC to work back in 2006 on my laptop. Now, it all seems to work pretty seamlessly. For people who just want to use a basic GUI and press “install” buttons, I think it’s perfectly fine.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

It's even simpler than I stalling windows.

[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 18 hours ago

For those who do want to continue to use Windows 10 after EOL, 0patch is providing post-EOL security updates.

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Dave is amazing, and his content on YouTube is very entertaining. This is a pragmatic answer for those who want or need Windows in some capacity, and then want to go on a use local accounts. Have some decency and recognize good advice when you see it.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 7 points 18 hours ago

It's useful information for those who need it, but the way it is presented sounds delusional and contradictory.

He says you don't need a Microsoft account, but goes on to explain actually you do need a Microsoft account.

It just sounds like pure cope.

For some people even needing a burner account is absolutely off the table and in no way a solution, and the fact of the matter is that an account is now required.

It only really works if you maintain access to a burner account, which might be difficult in the long term.

[–] Sv443@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

> Content creator who got massive recognition for Windows and used to work for Microsoft
> looks inside
> Windows

I swear the people in this comm behave like Christian missionaries

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Idk about you guys but I got sick of using an os that obviously doesn't want me to use it.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Linux install: maybe 10 or 15 minutes tops from booting USB to desktop access, login is local, network connection is optional.

I installed Linux on a friend's old laptop in an attempt to wring a few more years out of it, and they told me that they were surprised at how easy to use it was. I think most people just struggle with feeling intimidated. There is a bit of a learning curve, but the main obstacle is getting over that initial inertia

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Can't tell if he's joking considering all of his videos as a former MSFT engineer.

Then again, he is a former MSFT engineer lol.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 3 points 21 hours ago

Ima start making charcoal wood, gathering mesquite as I wander about the southwestern part of our country for the rest of eternity.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

You don't even need Microsoft burner account

[–] maus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Rufus takes care of it for you and sets up the usb image to bypass.

Unfortunately, 2025 was not the year of Linux for my new HTPC due to some weird EDID incompatibilities between my LG and the Intel arc iGPU on several different distro. Refused to allow for 1440p outside of 120hz and refused to go above 60hz at 4k.

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 day ago (7 children)

David Plumber is a former Windows engineer, and has a YouTube channel where he shares stories about his time at Microsoft.

Of course he has positive Windows opinions, and of course he yaps about it like he’s an expert: because he is

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[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Since everyone is dogging on Dave for his MacOS comment - I doubt he even realized MacOS has a "skip" option for the Apple ID.

Weird hill to die on, guys.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

He's a former Microsoft engineer for those who don't know

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's not an awful take to say something like "Hey, you can get around this requirement by creating a burner account, then creating local accounts". His wording is a bit off but he's an odd guy, who also used to scam people, so this isn't that bad in the grand scheme. He's also heavily biased to windows.

On the topic of the account, I moved to Linux and I threw an LTSC build of Windows 10 on another nvme drive so I could play a couple games that use anti cheat. I figure by the time that's no longer supported developers will just accept Linux in their games or i won't care anymore.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

One bummer about 'burner accounts' in 2025 is it seems to be increasingly difficult to have a true anonymous burner account that doesn't involve someone getting your PII. A few short years ago you could just get a disposable email address from a bunch of places and use it to sign up, but now everything seems to be super locked down to where you either need an existing email address or a phone number to create an email account, both of which tend to have ways of being tied back to you.

I don't know if there's even any email services left that will just give you an account no questions asked, but I'll bet if there are they'll already be rejected as invalid by the big players.

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[–] tal@olio.cafe 286 points 1 day ago (29 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Plummer

David William Plummer (born August 9, 1968) is a Canadian-American programmer and entrepreneur. He created the Task Manager for Windows, the Space Cadet Pinball ports to Windows NT, Zip file support for Windows, HyperCache[2] for the Amiga and many other software products.

2025: The guy that wrote Windows' Task Manager at Microsoft is creating burner accounts to get the OS installed.

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[–] yrnttm@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can open the powershell during install to get around the Microsoft id, and make a local user.

[–] Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

*so far

Until they alter the deal, again

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