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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

How about we kick the US out instead? It's not like we can trust them to have our backs anyway.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Last I checked, that isn't up to him.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

That won't stop him from acting like it is. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 19 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 21 points 4 days ago

Not buy enough American weapons.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Resist Israel with actual bans of airspace/ports use to assist Israel. Also, Spain is leader in solar transition.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

energy transition, but if the boat floats... wait until the orcas sink it.

[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They have been pretty vocal about not being able to afford the 5% GDP spending target.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

5%??????? That's insane isn't it supposed to be 2?

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 7 points 3 days ago

A NATO summit earlier this year increased it. Basically over the next few years, NATO countries will have to spend more on defense. The 5% isn't all direct military funding though. Some infrastructure that contributes indirectly to defense can be counted toward the 5%.

It became 2% after the Russian invasion of Crimea, but it was increased to 3.5% (+1.5% infrastructure) this year, due to threats from both Trump and Putin.

[–] valtia@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

5% but 3% can be fulfilled with infrastructure spending like roads and bridges that can support tanks

[–] shani66@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It astounds me that America has all this power in so many international institutions. America was much closer to the bad guys in ww2 until we were randomly attacked and dragged into the war. And since then we've been a violent, destabilizing force in the world. We are not and were never the good guys or even vaguely trustworthy.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

America was much closer to the bad guys

Somebody's never heard of lend-lease, the only reason the allies had the industrial capacity to hold Germany back.

until we were randomly attacked and dragged into the war.

They were attacked in retaliation for an oil embargo against Japan that would have brought japans campaign in China/the Pacific screeching to a halt

The US is far from perfect and was far from perfect in the 30s and 40s. There's plenty to criticize without spreading misinformation. I'm not sure if you're ignorant of history or just plain lying, but I am sure you're not helping anyone.

[–] shani66@ani.social 1 points 1 day ago

The second part was admittedly an exaggeration, but the first part isn't. America was all in on fascism and even nazism before being forced to actually join the war and those became enemies. America remained 'neutral' in ww2 for years (it was 3, yeah?), but it was the ruling class of America that empowered the Nazis and Nazi parties ran amok in America. Still do, but that's besides the point. iirc we didn't end corpo collaboration until after we actually joined the war.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Tremendous opportunity for freedom for Spain. NATO is just a formal colonization process in service for US. All members treasonously gaslight their population into serving CIA/US empire as a colony ahead of national prosperity. Russophobia is gaslighting population to be the next "to the last Ukrainian" proxy sacrifice for glory of US. Obviously 5% of GDP (US officially spends 3%) on purchasing US weapons is prima facie reason to execute any politician supporting it for treason. No trial needed.

All NATO members need new rulerships. Ironically, it is the more right wing/conservative parties that Trump lackies praise who are the most NATO/EU skeptic. Every politician who has their political capital tied up in CIA/NATO/US alliance and Russophobia is only capable of begging the US on how to best gaslight their people into stronger colonial subservience and stronger distracting hatred against US rivals.

So far, all direct threats against NATO colonies has resulted in pure desperate sycophancy to submit harder to the US. Spain has a new choice, and can either lead EU, or join in their suicide pact.

[–] Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

NATO is bad for colonies. The only response to extortion of "do what we say or get kicked out" is to leave.

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 1 points 3 days ago

All narrative

No substance

[–] Jikiya@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

"Rulership" not a new govt. Clearly someone pining for a boot.