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[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All I want for Christmas are some copycats.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

"They said Mangione was not read his rights before he was questioned by law enforcement officers"

There have been cases in the past where a murderer was released due to not being read his rights by arresting officers, huge L on the local police if this is proven to be true.

"They added that officers did not obtain a warrant before searching Mangione’s backpack."

I think matching the description of a guy at the center of a multi-state manhunt after shooting an unarmed man in the street, traveling away from the crime scene discreetly, counts as reasonable suspicion, but what do I know.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not being read your rights is not a get out of jail free card. They only need read your Miranda rights if they question you after arrest.

Once you are in custody, the pigs can search any damned thing they please. It is presumed they had probably cause for the arrest. Therefore they have probable cause to search your shit. Been there, done that, many times.

Think on this: You're arrested wearing a backpack. You think the pigs need a warrant to search that bag?

This is a case of his lawyers stacking whatever leverage into the record they can get. Good on them! That's their job.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Search incident to arrest" is not unlimited. It can be done, but only for certain purposes, such as obtaining weapons or preserving evidence. Did the pigs overreach here? Did they read a book that they didn't have a warrant for? Did they time the search wrong, and do it before he was arrested? Did they question him after the search, which would make least one of the two was unlawful?

We don't know, because the newspaper didn't bother to link to the court filing. So anyway, some of what you said was inaccurate, but for most of it, we just don't know what is on the record.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

*unarmed ~~man~~ mass murderer who would kill again if left alive

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The murderers are the GOP reps and every single person who voted them into power. Brian Thompson just facilitated the funding for whichever few chosen privileged were allowed to get frequent treatment.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I don't particularly excuse the existence of eager and willing SS colonels just because generals exist as well... Especially when they want to be a general more than anything else.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 1 points 1 day ago

I've never heard anybody blame the railroad companies, I've occasionally seen some shade thrown at IBM tho.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

reasonable suspicion means active crime.

[–] finitebanjo@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago

That's not at all what it means. They don't even need reasonable suspicion as an excuse if they witness a crime in progress, they just call that "arrest."

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

They can search your car under "reasonable suspicion" if it's messy. That's the whole flashlight thing they do, to check your back seat before the front. It's basically a quick check if you might have drugs or weapons. But if your car is messy enough they can't tell, they might ignore it or they might search it. Reasonable suspicion is so broad that as long as they can argue their point, it's accepted. In this case, a man who allegedly murdered someone would automatically be reasonable suspicion that he might have the weapon on him.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago