Think of AI as a mirror of you: at best, it can only match your skill level and can't be smarter or better. If you're unsure or make mistakes, it will likely repeat them. Like people, it can get stuck on hard problems and without a human to help, it just can't find a solution. So while it's useful, don't fully trust it and always be ready to step in and think for yourself.
Fuck AI
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The core problem with "AI" is the same as any technology: capitalism. It's capitalism that created this imaginary grift. It's capitalism that develops and hypes useless technology. It's capitalism that ultimately uses every technology for violent control.
The problem isn't so much that it's useless to almost everybody not in on the grift.. . The bigger problem is that "AI" is very useful to people who want to commit genocide, imprisonment, surveillance, etc. sloppily, arbitrarily, and with the impunity that comes from holding an "AI" as responsible.
I meant the core reason why A.I. doesn’t do what it’s being sold to do. Your posts are completely valid and much more serious.
AI is like your own personal con artist.
The potential usefulness of AI seems to depend largely on the type of work you're doing. And in my limited experience, it seems like it's best at "useless" work.
For example, writing cover letters is time consuming and exhausting when you're submitting hundreds of applications. LLMs are ideal for this, especially because the letters often aren't being read by humans anyways--either being summarized by LLMs, or ignored entirely. Similar things (such as writing grant applications, or documentation that no one will ever read) have a similar dynamic.
If you're not engaged in this sort of useless work, LLMs probably aren't going to represent time savings. And given their downsides (environmental impact, further concentration of wealth, making you stupid, etc) they're a net loss for society. Maybe instead of using LLMs, we should eliminate useless work?
The core problem is private ownership of something that is/hopes to be everywhere.
Like with industrial revolution, or later automation of manufacturing with industrial robots - the workers labor built up the capital that could buy & own the robots, which now gets more financial gain. Yet the workers gained nothing from this - they only get to buy the same products at still lucrative margins.
Witch means the end product was that workers still need to work peak hours to survive, not less hours to work on their own projects, participate in society, advance it, etc.
Additionally with AI is that wealth and tech concentration is very high & the resulting end-game (where everyone will be basically forced to use AI for daily necessities, like stores, banking, etc) even worse.
There is nothing wrong with the tech itself, it absolutely has it's uses.
Foss & pubic infrastructure is the way.
Random thought/association:
Not to promote or anything (it's a normal, watchable cartoon), but I'm still surprised to see that Fox is airing a show where the base premise is that a bunch of workers (from a hotdog factory) get replaced with "AI robots" and in return get a basic income from the factory each month, and they just enjoy life.
With A.I., it’s on me if I’m duped. What’s the use in that?
That's the fundamental insight right there.
If you write an email having your name in the sender address or if you sign something with your name, people expect you to be responsible for the content. Outsourcing the content creation to AI does not lift this responsibility. If the AI makes a mistake or if the tone is off, it's still on you.
Yeah, that’s why this statement is at the end, the rest was just building the case for this conclusion.
If you are skilled at task or knowledgeable in a field, you are better able to provide a nuanced prompt that will be more likely to give a reasonable result, and you can also judge that result appropriately. It becomes an AI-assisted task, rather than an AI-accomplished one. Then you trade your brainpower and time that you would have spent doing that task for a bit of free time and a scorched planet to live on.
That said, once you realize how often a "good" prompt in a field you are knowledgeable in still yields shit results, it becomes pretty clear that the mediocre prompts you'll write for tasks you don't know how to do are probably going to give back slop (so your instinct is spot on). I think AI evangelist users are succumbing to the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.
For the tasks that LLMs are actually decent at, like writing letters, the idea is that you save time even if you're knowledgable enough to do it yourself, and even if you still need to do some corrections (and you're right that you shouldn't use AI for a task that you're not knowledgable about - those corrections are crucial). One of the big issues of LLMs is that they are being sold as a solution for lots of tasks that they're horrible at.
Maybe I’m just too particular about things.
I cannot imagine an LLM world write the way I want it to be written.
Maybe not letters to your grandma, but to send out 1000 “your benefits have changed” in 600 subtly different ways.
I would argue that's actually the last situation you'd want to use an LLM. With numbers like that, nobody's going to review each and every letter with the attention things generated by an untrustworthy agent ought to get. This sounds to me like it calls for a template. Actually, it would be pretty disturbing to hear that letters like that aren't being generated using a template and based on changes in the system.
TBH I don't have much experience with it, because of the myriad other issues that plague LLMs, but style and tone is generally considered the thing that they're good at.
I have some experience on the letter receiving side to share. I have a work colleague who recently decided it was a good idea to answer inquiries in MS Teams or email with LLM generated text. It was very obvious because the wording was too business-polished polite, was too verbose and did not sound like anything you would answer to a colleague ever. While the content was technically fine, the tone was missed by a mile. Also the generous use of the infamous em dash and unnecessary exclamation marks gave it away immediately.
That poses a problem. If you do that to a person you're working with and they immediately know you're serving them AI slop because you're too lazy to be bothered with basic human interaction they WILL be offended. Same goes for customers if they know you personally or expect a human on the other side.
Humans are getting better at identifying AI garbage faster than LLMs improve. Because humans are still excellent at intuitive pattern recognition. Noticing that something is off intuitively is an evolutionary advantage that might save our ass.
If you want to sound like a mewling quim they are perfect!
I almost did not believe the words mewling and quim existed in real life language and had to look it up to ensure you didn't write that comment with an LLM AI
Style and tone MIGHT be something they can mimic, but they are phenomenally bad at nuance. The LLM model loses information when it is constructed, and it similarly loses detail when it's asked to elaborate on a point.
That's the problem though, no one needed or asked for a technology to write letters badly.
eh. Sometimes I let it put in platitudes if I'm emailing someone I know that's important to. Otherwise my "hi I want you to do x thing in exchange I will y here is the information you need to do it or make me a quote" sometimes ruffles feathers. I understand that some people need the little fluff words to feel respected and it's important to me that they feel respected but man do I suck at it.
The biggest issue with AI is the human using it.
The biggest issue with the three-pedalled bicycle is that humans have, at most, two legs.
This is the simple checklist for using LLMs:
- You are the expert
- LLM output is exclusively your input
All other use is irresponsible. Unless of course the knowledge within the output isn't important.
Literally all I use it for is to take my emails, which can be a bit rambling, and tighten them up a bit… maybe adjust the tone. But the content is all 100% me. In experimenting with them, I know how often they’re wrong; I don’t trust a single LLM.
AI is the finest bullshitting machine ever created.
Extremely useful to the biggest bullshitters on the planet: the state, capitalists, etal.