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A very interesting and insightful take from a foreign journalist on the outside looking in.

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[–] TheFermentalist@reddthat.com 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I would argue that they are the equivalent of third generation wealth. Second generation saw how hard their parents worked and understood the effort it took to get there.

Third gen were well off their whole lives and took it for granted. Rebelled against previous generations values and thought they knew better.

[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Rebelled against previous generations values and thought they knew better.

Tbf previous generations loved lynching, slavery, and women not having rights

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The boomers did not like those and are the ones who fought that stuff. Everyone hates on the boomers now but they fought for a lot of stuff.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

No they didn't. They're the Reagan Era cucks. Not only that, they undid the work of the ww1 vets.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Doesn't change the valid point they were trying to make

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Implying that wealth comes from hard work, nice one lol

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago

Clearly they’re not referring to that type of wealth.

This straw man is favored by conservatives, so to be clear: On the left when we refer to the problem of “generational wealth” we typically aren’t concerned with pedestrian forms of inheritance like a family farm, a house, leftover retirement savings, and so forth. We have in mind the kind of dynastic inheritance that far exceeds the surplus of many lifetimes of labor, since it begets our current crop of billionaire global elites, individuals completely detached from the experience of their fellow man yet powerful enough to control markets and topple democracies.

We can quibble over where to draw that line, but deliberately misinterpreting someone to inject a leftist idea is not how we win anyone over.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

What's "well off their whole lives" look like you you?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol boomers clutch pearls about superior nationalities like both the US and China aren't suppressing their youth unemployment numbers and diving face first into a population collapse.

[–] Dearth@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Population collapse is a ridiculous problem. Why does a population need to grow endlessly? Are human beings a cancer?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It doesn't have to work that way, but we have set it up where if there is a population collapse, then it ends up badly for regular people.

So people who want to mitigate suffering feel like it's a problem.

[–] ifGoingToCrashDont@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

He goes on to say

[Americans] were born into democracy and have no appreciation of what life is like without it. Chinese people, on the other hand, “have been bullied by rulers for thousands of years. We’re very familiar with these situations.”

Buddy that looks worse for you. The Chinese have been dealing with it for thousands of years but haven't managed to do anything about it? If this was some kind of flex, it's a weird one.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why do you think it's "a flex?" Are you by any chance a relatively young man? (Because taking everything as a competition is most often associated with that demographic.)

It's not "a flex". It's people being worried about the US. I am too, because while I'm not American, I also know that the US is a significant world power, especially military-wise. (As in lots of expensive gear, although the soldiers are second grade.)

Why do you take someone worrying for you as them trying hurt you?

Trump is hurting you. This guy isn't. He's trying to help.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This guy tries to hurt me when I go to sleep at night. He hides under my bed with one of those electric tennis racket that zaps bugs, or in my closet, or another inventive place, and then zaps me and runs away chortling. And he is always naked. Always.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"look how I'm making fun of political violence even existing"

Youre hilarious, brother

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Don't be a gloomy Gus, be a sunny Sam!

I don't think you understand context he's giving, or the gravity of the situation in the US right now at all if you cannot parse and understand this statement.

Regardless of whether you've had a chance to fully realize and experience what these freedoms are like, they are being taken away from you as you type here, and you're too jaded to feel it happening and respond properly.

That's his point. Like a rich kid who has been rich all his life, then slowly becomes poorer and poorer until completely out of money. Only until he's actually out of money will he realize that.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's an Americanism. There are dictatorships all over the world for millennia. They are incredibly hard to overcome. Source: world history.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, no, poor willing slaves, born into a world they apathetically accept...

Is this the Chinese equivalent of the American "I'm too overworked to participate in politics"?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There's that Americanism again.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That doesn't even make any sense.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are many American reporters, Wang said, who report competently on China. But when I asked how the US media was doing covering the US, he burst into laughter. “If I were the New York Times, I would be putting curse words on the front page every day,” he told me. “F-word, F-word, F-word.”

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you not understand what he's saying here, or.….?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oh - I think I do. And I think it's brilliant.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip -4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

America was never a democracy, all Trump did was pull the curtain back, the scene becomes the ob-scene. The people lament for the comfort of their illusions and parlor tricks.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Outta here with the nihilist BS.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Truth is people don't care. As long as their day to day is unaffected people don't really care.

[–] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 days ago

The concept of freedom and democracy was nothing more than the idea of an ethical order, or at least the perception of one.