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I was lucky enough to buy new in 2017, just before all the ridiculous privacy violations hit the fast lane
By the time this car is done for, I will have no option available that is not a privacy violation on wheels... jailbreaking/hacking will be my #1 purchase criteria of whatever my next car will be
None of this has anything to do with the car's powertrain. Regular internal combustion engine cars are just as bad as EVs in this regard.
I have an older Nissan Leaf in Australia. While I'm sure the car is trying to send telemetry, it only has a 3G modem, and the 3G network has been switched off for all of Australia.
If you have a newer car, it may be possible to remove the telematics fuse and ignore the related DTC.
I bet the authorities can still pick up the telemetry with satellites. Of course, they can also just see the car.
The 3G transmitter is not able to send signals to satellites.
It's definitely designed to be able to send signals to satellites, and there are satellites designed to pick up signals from devices that aren't designed to reach them.
But, they can also just see where your car is going visually, and get any audio/video from inside with your phone that connects directly to cell towers, so you might be right that no satellite is actually ever spying on your car's 3G modem.
It's definitely designed to be able to send signals to satellites
Do you have any source for that? Not that I don't believe you but I can't find anything on this
The sources are just people who know saying it, like me. The designers wouldn't publicly admit it or anything.
Cell phone range is impacted by ground obstruction, the curvature of the earth itself getting in the way, atmospheric effects
The closest satellites are about 160km up, where a 3G transmitter can reach when it's looking straight up with no Earth and less air in the way
The companies that designed the 3G standard and manufactured some of the phones also do military contracts for stuff like the radios in spy satellites, they knew what they were doing
It also stands out as intentional because making the range go beyond the curvature of the earth is just crippling infrastructure, wasting battery and putting millions of people in danger (can't call 911 with a dead phone)
Lower-power devices with mesh networking would have made more sense with the powerful processors and high usage phones were getting by the middle of the 3G era, but the "cellular" design is much more convenient to monitor
And all of a sudden data roaming costs isn't an issue anymore ;) Who pays the mobile subscription? Or do car manufacturers pay the telco's with a part of the data gathered ....
This is a lose-lose-lose.
Well that's it, I'm just going to drive my 23-year-old 350Z Roadster forever. As a 90s computer geek, I would have never imagined that future technology would turn me into a classic car guy, yet here we are.
I miss the days when spyware was treated like a virus; now it's the norm.
What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?
Stick to older cars. Learn the way of the wrench. End.
Stick to older cars. Learn the way of the wrench. End.
I'm sorry to say this is nowhere near the "end"... there is only a relative small window where pre 2018 vehicles are a viable purchase for the masses (those are already at least 8 year old cars)... in 10 more years they will simply not be practical/suitable unless you happen to be a full mechanic and restorer
I’m sorry to say this is nowhere near the “end”… there is only a relative small window where pre 2018 vehicles are a viable purchase for the masses (those are already at least 8 year old cars)… in 10 more years they will simply not be practical/suitable
....what?
I don't even know how to parse this bullshit you just vomited.
unless you happen to be a full mechanic and restorer
No shit, Sherlock. That's why I said "learn the way of the wrench". It was a tongue-in-cheek euphemism for "DO YOUR OWN WORK".
And unless you live in the rust belt (my condolences if you do), an 18 year old car will continue to do car things with proper maintenance.
So first off, no need to throw around insults to look cool... this isn't a shitty US sitcom from the 80's
You claim "the end" as in learning some auto mechanics is a permanent solution. I am claiming it is not since we will run out of cars that do not have all the invasive crappy technology. This movement hit the fast lane with the 2018 models which means you need to stay in 2017 or earlier models which are now, 8 years old. In 10 years, 15 to be generous, it would be hard to buy a car from 2017 in working order and not everyone will be able to become a full on mechanic. Even if you are, the bodies of the cars cannot last that long in regular use in harsh weather like Canada's
And all of this is if the gov does not intervene for the auto industry, which they will absolutely do, and ensure your 18 year old car does not pass safety and you cannot legally drive it anyway
The question wasn't "how do I restore an old car without skills?" Rather, the question was quite literally: "Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?"
And I answered accordingly, albeit with a bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. It's not that deep.