this post was submitted on 07 Dec 2023
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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Killings by law enforcement in Canada

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Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] Crow@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don’t know why my dog hates the delivery person so much but they should put that hatred towards cops.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

With how they like to pound on doors instead of knock, I imagine my dogs would especially hate cops.

[–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So according to the same department that would rather skew results in their favor claims 10,000+ dogs killed by cops.

I bet the most accurate number is quite a bit higher

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] LittleTransPunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I wish I could be surprised by this

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Paywall.

Any pattern to which breeds are most likely to be killed?

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not a direct response to your comment, just additional information related to breeds:

There have been multiple instances of cops killing small dogs like pomeranian and chihuahuas while they're locked inside a fence they didn't need to pass through to access the front door, and multiple instances of cops killing dogs to homes they had no legal reason to be at.

Honestly, the rules of any website prevent me from properly expressing the kind of violence I'd like to enact on the time of person who just haphazardly kills a helpless animal, which is a consistent pattern with LEOs.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

A few free ways around paywalls, region-blocking, adblock-blocking, and URL glitches:

archive.today
slow-loading, virtually unreadable without adblocker

Ghostarchive
poor layout, spotty uptime

Google Cache
frequently fails, but reliably captures video when it works

Internet Archive (Wayback Machine)
slow-loading, but works

One Foot Away
poor layout, quick-loading, spotty uptime

12-Foor Ladder
poor layout, quick-loading, spotty uptime, blocks major newspapers

If there are other workarounds, please let me know.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The whole thing isn't paywalled, there are sources before you hit the block. One of which cites the DOJ as saying police kill between 25 and 30 dogs a day.

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/25-to-30-dogs-killed-every-day-by-law-enforcement-justice-department-estimates/

At that point, I think the pattern is "dogs encountered by cops".