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My mind's eye when I see those trump signs (lemmy.one)
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[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 88 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The USSR collapsed more than 30 years ago. Modern day Russia has nothing to do with communism at all.

It is closer to its Czarist imperial roots than it is to the the USSR. You would be more accurate using the Russian Imperial Eagle

They literally revived the old imperial symbol when the Russian federation was created.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

I mean tbf they also make use of soviet iconography to just as much of a degree, they have a weird obsession with synchrotizing soviet aesthetics with Imperial Russian aesthetics in what can only be described as "grievance culture chique"

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 months ago

Fascists always talk about returning to some former greatness. If the greater past was communist, thousands of years ago or a fairy tale does not matter as much.

[-] Forester@yiffit.net 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

From what my Russian friends told me: Putin is a neo czarist. He has been preaching the "evils of western influences" for 30 years and trying to revive the Russian Empire. "As Marxism is a German ideology and was imported by the Germans to cause the Russian Empire to implode into civil war and close the western front in WWI to destabilize the Russian Empire it is inherently flawed and evil" : the "mighty Russian" people endured "western Marxism" and are still proud of their cultural symbolism from that time period as they made the art not the "evil westerners who tricked them into attempting communism".

If you would like more sourced information about this topic, I would advise you to read the foundations of geopolitics.

Edit added more quote marks

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Breaking out Alexander Dugin; nice.

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah yeah. You're right of course. I am an American child of the 80's though which is why my mind uses the hammer and sickle still.

Also, Fuck Russia.

Edit: And, you try photoshoping that fucking eagle into a stencil format. Fuck that.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I don't suppose... I could maybe get that without the trump sign? Possibly in .dxf format?

(no, I'm not going to make a stencil and gratuitously vandalize every trump sign I see... why would you even ask?!)

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I am an American child of the 80’s though which is why my mind uses the hammer and sickle still.

Wolverines!!

Not American but I totally understand. :)

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Wolverines!!

You nailed it. I must have been 9 or so when that came out.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

While the invasion in the original Red Dawn was stretching things a bit, at least the USSR was a credible threat back then.

The remake swapping out the USSR for the DPRK? Please...

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago

On that topic, it has been really strange watching the same group that used to have nothing but vitriol for the Soviets, suddenly in jump in bed with the Russians. A generation has passed is one factor, I suppose. Still, its an about face that still makes my head spin a bit. I have to attribute it to Russian influence campaigns and other underhanded corruption using power, money and influence.

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

Two reasons.

First and foremost: Money

Second: Group of right-wing authoritarians hate Nation run by left wing authoritarians. Nation drops left ideology and swings hard right? Group of right-wing authoritarians change opinion of nation real fast.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Have you seen “The Americans?”

It’s like that, but less fun.

A sizable amount of politicians are either spies, bribed, or have dirt on them (probably fucking kids).

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

You say that like the USSR had anything to do with communism.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 11 months ago

It did for a while, until it didn't.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

It didn't really, at all. It had revolutionaries with little in the way of ability to govern, and then a bunch of opportunistic autocrats who came in to pick up the pieces. Saying they had anything to do with communism was idealism at first, and outright fabrication after.

[-] wandermind@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

At least it pretended to.

Modern-day Russia doesn't even try to pretend.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

They used communist symbolism. That seems relevant when we're talking about symbols.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago

Soviet symbolism.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

No. It was invented in Russia but it's an international symbol.

[-] 1boiledpotato@sh.itjust.works -3 points 11 months ago

I hate when people think communism means USSR. It had nothing to do with ut except the name

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Oh, they started using the hammer and sickle more since the war started.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That’s a disgrace.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago

Putin was trained by the KGB.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If he was a communist and had control of Russia than Russia wouldn't be the way it was.

It may surprise you that some capitalism supporters got into power in the soviet union before Yeltsin ordered the parliament to be bombarded with tanks, dissolving the socialist democracy and bringing about capitalism in former soviet states.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago

So we agree. Putin was trained by the Soviet KGB.

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

Yes, but we disagree on whether that makes him a communist. He is a leader of a very capitalist country.

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago

Love all the people who completely missed the point that this isn't supposed to be accurate, it's supposed to trigger the conservatives since they're still stuck in the Red Scare propaganda and call anything they don't like "communism".

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 6 points 11 months ago

Exactly. Also the current Russian logo (two headed chicken beast), looks like shit and doesn't mean anything to the average American.

[-] pottedmeat7910@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Seeing a Trump lawn sign is akin to seeing someone's septic system malfunction. It's just a bunch of smelly shit that's splattered all over the front yard.

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

This is offensive. Trump is the opposite of what that symbol represents.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

I think it's been too corrupted by misuse, kind of like the swastika.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago

Well, what’s the symbol of modern communism? A smartphone and a vibrator? The pride flag?

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Basically. Dictator pull-ups

[-] danikpapas@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Nice, you added bunch of shit that don't have anything to do with each other. Nice post bro

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one -4 points 11 months ago

You're welcome

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Somebody should sell little stickers to slsp these on trump signs

[-] Donger@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

This just makes you look stupid.

[-] Cranakis@lemmy.one 4 points 11 months ago

Why's that?

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Do people just not think about what community this is? Meme’s are supposed to be absurd. I like two -headed chicken beast, great description.

[-] purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 10 months ago

Red scare never really went away. Russia is a capitalistic country.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

It is amazing how few people know that the USSR was run by Ukrainians from 1953-1982.

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